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Any experience with this RTA?

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Topic: Any experience with this RTA?

Posted By: luckydevil
Subject: Any experience with this RTA?
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 2:09 AM

GOLDLINE ASA-10B 10-BAND RTA w/SPL

First time I've seen an RTA at a reasonable price. The other ones I have seen usually start at around $500 and go up from there.

Any thoughts?



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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 7:32 AM
well the first thing I see is the fact that it only reads to 122db     if your only using for the RTA then it would work,   if looking to measure SPL then it will be way on the low side.....most average systems will do 130-140db

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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 8:12 AM
10 bands is really pretty useless... For PROPER setup, I'd look for at least 20 bands, 30 would be even better.

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Posted By: luckydevil
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 8:19 AM
Thanks guys. Is there an RTA under $500 that can be used in a car audio application?




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 8:53 AM
Have you looked into Windows based systems that run off your lap top and uses a normal mic ?

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Posted By: luckydevil
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 9:01 AM
I don't have a laptop so I was hoping to find a dedicated RTA.




Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 10:48 AM

I have trueRTA for my computer. I havent used it yet because I was under the impression that a regular microphone would not suffice. Dont I have to buy a high end mic for it to be accurate?



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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 11:00 AM

killer sonata wrote:

I have trueRTA for my computer. I havent used it yet because I was under the impression that a regular microphone would not suffice. Dont I have to buy a high end mic for it to be accurate?

High end?  No, you want a calibrated mic with a flat frequency response.  I use a Behringer ECM8000.  There are many others.  TrueRTA is a great software package, just be sure to pay for at least the level 3 version.

As far as number of bands on a dedicated RTA, it depends on what you are trying to accomplish.  If all you want is something to get a relative idea of in-car frequency response so you can tweak basic tone controls or a head unit's 3 to 5 band parametric, a 10-band RTA can be useful.  If you are trying to fine-tune a SQ comp car, then yea you need more like 1/24 octave resolution.



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Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 11:39 AM
How does that mic connect to a computer? Does it need its own power supply?

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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 12:03 PM

killer sonata wrote:

How does that mic connect to a computer? Does it need its own power supply?

Yes, you must provide phantom power for it.  I use a Behringer Shark preamp and connect that output to my sound card.  Some profe4ssional sound cards will provide phantom microphone power.



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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 12:37 PM
I use the M-Audio USB Pre. Great piece of gear. Small, too. Bus powered, and powers that ECM8000 like a champ... ANd you can get it at your local Guitar Center. Stocked in most stores, otherwise they are fast, and usually pretty cheap too!

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Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 1:39 PM

wow thats a lot of work to get a microphone to work. Im wondering if I convert the rca connection to the mic for my eclipse deck to 3.5mm and plug it into the sound card it will suffice for now?



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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 3:04 PM

killer sonata wrote:

wow thats a lot of work to get a microphone to work. Im wondering if I convert the rca connection to the mic for my eclipse deck to 3.5mm and plug it into the sound card it will suffice for now?

The problem with using an uncalibrated microphone is each one has its own response characteristics and what you read on your RTA will be as much the mic as the sound.  I would bet the Eclipse mic has a response curve that is not flat, and the Eclipse system compensates for that.  The only way to get accurate RTA results is to use a calibrated flat response mic, or to know the precise curve of the mic's response so you can compensate for it.



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Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 3:49 PM

Mabye its just me but I think its perfectly reasonable to expect to pay 500 bucks plus for a stand alone RTA meter when you take into acount what the equipment actually does. It might not be affordable, but I think its reasonable.



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Posted By: Drewt
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 10:08 PM
yeah, $500 for an RTA isn't bad at all.

I've used an ECM8000 many times - it's a good mic, reasonably priced, etc. Your best bet it to buy one of those and hook it up to a computer.

-Drew




Posted By: spookiestylez
Date Posted: June 13, 2006 at 11:53 PM

Im deff. gonna look into getting that setup on my laptop, just to have a great tool and something cool to take into work

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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: June 14, 2006 at 7:52 AM
Another option for you is look around on ebay for a Term-Lab setup to go on, you can usually get one for $300-$500 used on ebay, then thier is a RTA feture you can activate on there that is about $200-$300 to activate. I cant remember exactly....the specs should be able to be found on DBdrag.com under the term-pro tab on the left side....

I had some time to play on one not too long ago and wow!   I wish I had the spare cash to upgrade my software for it right now, but I odnt even know what I would use it for at this time, I only make noise at one tone. Our other setups are not advanced enough to worry about an RTA right now.

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Posted By: bdl666
Date Posted: June 15, 2006 at 6:14 AM

How about using TrueRta with a Radio Shack spl meter as the mic. I got one like 10 years ago an if I remember correctly it had the response curve on the manual. Can it be used with that info?



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