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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=79665
Printed Date: May 15, 2025 at 3:36 PM


Topic: electrical system upgrade

Posted By: samtucan11
Subject: electrical system upgrade
Date Posted: June 26, 2006 at 9:04 PM

I am tryin to figure out how to determine what alternator, as well as how many batteries i will need to run my system. Is there any guidelines to determine these values. For example lets say i have a 5000 watt system, can i plug that into an equation, or some sort of outline to determine what size alternator i need, and how many batteries, or if i wanted an 8000watt system, same thing.... :errr:



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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: June 26, 2006 at 9:53 PM

The equation is good ol' Ohms Law.  Power is the result of voltage X amperage.  Voltage is the car system, and you can figure 12 volts for that.  If you were in with some competitors who beef up voltage to a higher number for comps, you would already have an inside track to what size alternator you'd need to get.  Batteries parallel-linked together still provide the same voltage, so there's no need to consider them in what you would need in an alternator.  You also have to consider what the car needs in power and then provide above and beyond for the sound system.

Amplifiers waste some of the power they receive, to boot.  Figure at least 30 to 40% waste in heat...so if you want 5000 watts of power you need to be able to feed the system enough current to equal about 7000 watts when multiplied times voltage.  7000 / 12 volts = 583 amps.

Realistically, what is it that you want to achieve?  Or is your question rhetorical only?



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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: June 27, 2006 at 1:39 AM
5000 or 8000 watt system...Just go ahead and put dual HO alt's if you are thinking about that.




Posted By: samtucan11
Date Posted: June 27, 2006 at 7:21 AM
stevdart wrote:

Amplifiers waste some of the power they receive, to boot.  Figure at least 30 to 40% waste in heat...so if you want 5000 watts of power you need to be able to feed the system enough current to equal about 7000 watts when multiplied times voltage.  7000 / 12 volts = 583 amps.

Realistically, what is it that you want to achieve?  Or is your question rhetorical only?


i am asking, because i would like to end up with a system total of about 4k watts. When you talk about waste in heat, is that related to the amplifier efficeny at all? my amps would be RF 2000BD which should have an efficency of about 80% how would i figure it out then????

4000/.80 = 5000watts. then 5000/12 = 416 amps, would that be correct at all?????posted_image





Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: June 27, 2006 at 4:10 PM
What are you goin to be running with that many watts?




Posted By: samtucan11
Date Posted: June 27, 2006 at 4:41 PM

aznboi3644 wrote:

What are you goin to be running with that many watts?

I wanna run (4) 15" L7's with (2) RF 2001BD's





Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: June 27, 2006 at 6:51 PM
You did the math right.  It won't turn out to be so cut-and-dried, but at least you know you're in the ballpark of what you need to do.  And yes, amplifier efficiency is the waste I was talking about.

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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.




Posted By: samtucan11
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 8:37 AM
awsome, thanks alot!posted_image





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