what do you think of these brands?
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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Topic: what do you think of these brands?
Posted By: raulbustos
Subject: what do you think of these brands?
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 9:13 PM
hey juys whats up i wanted your opinion on some brands. i got a catalog that i can order some stuff prety cheap but tell me what you think of these brands soundstream, quantum audio, kole audio, scosche, poweracoustik, swiss audio, distinct audio, soundstorm, db drive for either amps or for subs ------------- Raul
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Posted By: mustangfoo
Date Posted: June 29, 2006 at 1:25 AM
I have a Power Acoustik LT series 2 channel powering my subs and I am happy but the other companies BLAH!
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: June 29, 2006 at 8:16 AM
Personally I think they all are ok...Power Acoustik I'm not a big fan of because of the overratings.
But what isn't overrated these days you know?
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: June 29, 2006 at 12:38 PM
what isn't "overrated" these days? any product line that adheres to the CEA-2006 specification system.... isnt that the idea of an industry standard testing / output criteria??? ------------- Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: June 29, 2006 at 2:46 PM
It sounds like the good old A-bomb group listing. I wouldn't run any of that gear.
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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: June 29, 2006 at 7:11 PM
Yes kevin I get your point, but what I meant was the cheaper products. But oh well.
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: June 29, 2006 at 7:16 PM
dwarren wrote:
It sounds like the good old A-bomb group listing. I wouldn't run any of that gear.
Ditto. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: jmac279
Date Posted: June 29, 2006 at 8:23 PM
raulbustos wrote:
hey juys whats up i wanted your opinion on some brands. i got a catalog that i can order some stuff prety cheap but tell me what you think of these brands soundstream, quantum audio, kole audio, scosche, poweracoustik, swiss audio, distinct audio, soundstorm, db drive for either amps or for subs
Soundstream - Used to be great Scosche - Good wire Power Acoustik - Meh ... Owns Soundstream now Swiis Audio - Meh ... Owned by Audiobahn Soundstorm - Trash
Posted By: bigwest4085
Date Posted: June 29, 2006 at 10:30 PM
i have 2 poweracoustik mofo-12 with a A3000db and it hits soo hard you can hear me commin from a mile away
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: June 30, 2006 at 2:22 AM
But does it sound clean and tight?? SQ?? I'd rather hear every bass note besides just hearing one big blur.
Posted By: bigwest4085
Date Posted: June 30, 2006 at 9:05 AM
yes it sounds really clear and everything.. make sure you have a ported box though... but how much do you wanna spend on a subwooofer?
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: June 30, 2006 at 10:01 AM
bigwest4085 wrote:
yes it sounds really clear and everything.. make sure you have a ported box though... but how much do you wanna spend on a subwooofer?
A ported enclosure will NEVER sound as tight as a properly constructed sealed box... I think you have never heard a proper subwoofer if you are of the opinion that those products, in a vented enclosure, could EVER sound good.
"really clear and everything.."? Come sit in my car with 2000+ watts driving a single Eclipse Ti12 in a sealed enclosure. That is the DEFINITION of deep, controlled and musical bass... ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: jmac279
Date Posted: June 30, 2006 at 10:20 AM
haemphyst wrote:
bigwest4085 wrote:
yes it sounds really clear and everything.. make sure you have a ported box though... but how much do you wanna spend on a subwooofer?
A ported enclosure will NEVER sound as tight as a properly constructed sealed box... I think you have never heard a proper subwoofer if you are of the opinion that those products, in a vented enclosure, could EVER sound good.
"really clear and everything.."? Come sit in my car with 2000+ watts driving a single Eclipse Ti12 in a sealed enclosure. That is the DEFINITION of deep, controlled and musical bass...
The majority of home theater speakers are ported and I think you'd have a difficult time proving that they're not "clear and everything" ... A properly constructed and designed ported enclosure can sound every bit as good as a properly constructed and designed sealed enclosure ...
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: June 30, 2006 at 10:45 AM
The majority of home theater speaker systems are designed to target the "mass-market", home theater crowd, and are definitely NOT audiophile. They are louder, (by design) and the human condition is to BELIEVE that "louder is better"... It isn't. You're right, I won't be able to prove to the average guy, buying generally publicly acceptable "home theater" speakers that they AREN'T "clear and everything", because of this fact.
I have heard very fine vented enclosures, I never said I hadn't. However, a sealed enclosure is MOST agreeable to more true high-end afficionados than a vented enclosure... Also, GOOD vented enclosures are exceptionally difficult to design correctly, and when not designed correctly you will end up with the "louder is better" phenomenon again. Also from past experiences, they don't often exist in the car.
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: June 30, 2006 at 4:26 PM
There is a great difference in cabin, or room, gain when you are making a comparison of car audio to HT audio. The gain is phenomenal in a car and barely present in an HT room. This is a factor in why a vented sub system may work perfectly well in a room but lose its precision in a car.
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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: June 30, 2006 at 7:51 PM
Sorry haemphyst but you just got burned by steve here. lol
Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: July 01, 2006 at 5:24 AM
No dude, you read that wrong. I can't burn da Man. I learn from him every day. That was an agreeance type of thing.
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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: July 01, 2006 at 7:36 AM
Oh well....it is all very informative...I don't think I know of anyone or anything that can match all the knowledge of audio stuff and more than the people here.
Posted By: donkason
Date Posted: July 03, 2006 at 11:38 AM
Soundsteam still makes some quality products. They used to be great but they have changed hands and it looks like they are targeting the bling bling entry level market. They still make some great products but the good stuff is quite expensive but IMO it is worth it.
Posted By: raulbustos
Date Posted: July 04, 2006 at 9:03 AM
okay well i found a little problem they have some kind of a teritory restriction on the sound stream and i guess i cant order them from my state so any others brands that you guys have used that you would recomend either for a sub or for an amp ------------- Raul
Posted By: donkason
Date Posted: July 04, 2006 at 1:07 PM
I can't find a Soundstream dealer around here either. Most shops dropped them like a rock because when they changed hands there was a quality issue and the new owners were not honoring warranty work. I ended up buying all of my stuff online after a couple hours or reading reviews and shopping. You will save some money that way instead of paying clean retail at a local shop. As for a good sub I usually buy JL Audio. They might be a bit overpriced, due to the name, but I know I am getting a quality sub every time. I have used kicker in the past as well. The kicker comp vr sub is a good bang for the buck.
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