Type-R Vs. P3
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Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 2:51 AM
Topic: Type-R Vs. P3
Posted By: cloak559
Subject: Type-R Vs. P3
Date Posted: August 02, 2006 at 8:19 PM
Like some of you know, Im in the process of rebuilding my single 12" SQL system...I have a Kenwood KAC-9102d which is running at about 800-850w ,and Im in the process of building a new ported enclosure. I originally wanted a Type-R 12" but the owner of the stereo shop here offered me a P3 at a pretty good price. Now, Im not really at debate as far as the SQ goes, because with Alpine or Rockford comes nothing but the best IMO...What my concern is, is the power handling. Alpine says the Type-R's peak handling is 1500w and the P3 is 1000w...Now, my Power Acoustik said it would handle 1000watts peak and I melted the voice coils yesterday(but of vourse thats Power Acoustik)...So my question is what do you think would be a better choice for someone who has a "Pump up the Volume" problem? Type-R 12"...Or ...P3 12"....? Any other sub suggestions are acknowledged too...Something under $300 preferably...
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'89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz
Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...
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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: August 03, 2006 at 6:49 PM
Type R's sound better than P3...about it...have heard both in sealed boxes to spec...big noticeable difference.
Posted By: cutlass013
Date Posted: August 03, 2006 at 7:38 PM
in ported the P3 would probably be louder but if its quality you want lol.. the the R probably would be for you.. i have known Rockford to be more vibrating loud then actual clean sound coming from em.. but hey what ever keeps the boat afloat
Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: August 03, 2006 at 8:06 PM
SQL? first off thatas a made up term. Second, by SQL im guess you want something that isnt good enough for SQ or for SPL (something in the middle? From those 2 choices id pick the type-R. a friend of mine has a P2 and i put it in a nice tight little sealed box and it still sounds loose and sloppy to me. just like my ex. WHAT?!?! lol. anyways, the power handling is not what makes a sub good for SQ. for instance, a focal 27KX is an 11" sub that only handle 350 RMS but it is extremely efficient. There are a lot of other factors that go into play when choosing a SQ sub.
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"People with mullets live 40% longer" - Ricky Bobby
Posted By: cloak559
Date Posted: August 03, 2006 at 11:26 PM
hahah, real nice killer. I got a nice chuckle out of that....After talking with a few people and geting some prices Im seriously thinking about a TC-2000 DVC. Theyre only about $300 and from what I hear, TC Sounds allready has a rep for great drivers... As for my reference to SQL, I simply mean that I want an SPL system that doesnt just make loud noises...Im interested in doing some entry level competing in the future and I really want to buy the right sub...Ive already droped a couple hundred before and I dont want to do it again...At least with the TC-2000 I can just replace the top assembly...What do you guys think?
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'89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz
Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...
Posted By: cutlass013
Date Posted: August 04, 2006 at 12:03 AM
for you i would get the TC the rms on that alpine is only 200-500 and you said your amp is hittin at 800-850 doesnt sound like the alpine could handle it unless you bought 2 was that your plan if so then get the alpine i see more benefits if only one then get the TC seems like it could handle it but just steer away from RF nothing against them just not the best subs
Posted By: cloak559
Date Posted: August 04, 2006 at 10:52 AM
Well Im actually only going to run ONE twelve, whether it was a Type-R or a TC. So it looks to me like the TC is gonna be a better bet for a one sub setup. Especially concidering the power im running...and $300 is a small price to pay for that quality. Hell, im paying more than that for the enclosure and sound dampening...
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'89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz
Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: August 04, 2006 at 5:39 PM
Yes...all of the new RF Punch subs have that doodiety brittle as fack cones...they just plain suck.
killer sonata wrote:
SQL? first off thatas a made up term. Second, by SQL im guess you want something that isnt good enough for SQ or for SPL (something in the middle? From those 2 choices id pick the type-R. a friend of mine has a P2 and i put it in a nice tight little sealed box and it still sounds loose and sloppy to me. just like my ex. WHAT?!?! lol. anyways, the power handling is not what makes a sub good for SQ. for instance, a focal 27KX is an 11" sub that only handle 350 RMS but it is extremely efficient. There are a lot of other factors that go into play when choosing a SQ sub.
Killer...I didn't mean to get your ex as loose as a goose before you got here..but man she was just beggin for it...lol
Posted By: Paradigm
Date Posted: August 04, 2006 at 6:17 PM
SQL...the real choice of audiophiles everywhere (copyright pending)  ------------- VEHICLE: 2002 GMC Sonoma ZR2
Alpine CDA-7940
AudioControl EQT x2
JL Audio 1000/1
JL Audio 10W6 (originals) x3
Kicker ZR120
Kicker ZR460
Polk GXR-6 x4
Polk GXR-4 x2
Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: August 04, 2006 at 10:10 PM
Paradigm wrote:
SQL...the real choice of audiophiles everywhere (copyright pending)
well put but I hope to god this was sarcasm! Dont get me wrong I have a decent SQ setup and a mild SPL setup but it involves completely different equipment. It is very possible to have the best of both worlds in one vehicle, just not with the same setup. And as for getting my ex loose, well shes been my ex for almost 6 years now so its all good! ------------- "People with mullets live 40% longer" - Ricky Bobby
Posted By: dangerranger96
Date Posted: August 04, 2006 at 11:38 PM
Deffinitely stay away from fosgate... their quality has gone way down in the past few years
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97 F150, Sony CDX-M630, Sony XM-2165GTX, JL Audio 12W3D2, Planet Audio VX-602, Memphis 15-MC5.7
Yeah it's a mutt, but mutts make the best dogs!
Posted By: qnretail
Date Posted: August 05, 2006 at 8:00 AM
Hmmm.. 6 years? I guess it is true.. chicks don't dig dudes with bass..   ------------- 2 x DD9515f's, Digital Designs Z1 amplifier
Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: August 05, 2006 at 10:02 AM
actually my current GF loves my system. Shes a basshead at heart. Ive only been in the car audio scene for about 3 years now so "chicks not liking bass" had nothing to do with the breakup. she was just a loose and sloppy cheating sl#t
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"People with mullets live 40% longer" - Ricky Bobby
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: August 05, 2006 at 10:12 AM
Just ordered a pair of 10's from TC Sounds, for 300. They WILL rock your socks off, will handle all the power you already posess, and will go in a TINY enclosure. Check into them... 148 bux each. CAN'T go wrong with these drivers! They will also allow you to upgrade your amp considerably in the future if so inclined. A pair would take 800 watts all day, with 2kW as their max! ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: cloak559
Date Posted: August 05, 2006 at 9:03 PM
Yeah, I hear nothing but good things about TC Sounds....I just ordered a TC-2000 12"....Cant beat the price on those things...I've allready starting on building a 4.5cf ported enclosure and Im about 1/2-way done porting my trunk...Slowly but surely its coming together nicely...As soon as I steal my girls camera ill snap a few shots of my progress... qnretail wrote:
chicks don't dig dudes with bass..
Four 15"s and four 10"s under the taneua cover of a '76 El Camino, and 6 girls in lingerie sitting on the cover......hit about 150dB and we couldnt keep these girls away!!! ------------- '89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz
Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...
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