the perfect amp
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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
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Printed Date: April 27, 2024 at 2:40 PM
Topic: the perfect amp
Posted By: cutlass013
Subject: the perfect amp
Date Posted: August 14, 2006 at 9:53 PM
i have 2 pioneer 306c 400w rms and 1000watt max with a crap amp from like pyramid or sumthing i was wonder if this amp KAC-9102d from kenwood could work with them its mono 850 watt rms at 2 ohm and the subs are single VC 4 ohm could this work is it worth it and does anyone have a kenwood amp i bought these subs and a "1500" watt 2 channel amp and i think this would sound better is the 50 watts over the rms gonna hurt it.. i am building a fiberglass box for them and will be inverted.. thanks for any info
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Posted By: fosgate152ohm
Date Posted: August 14, 2006 at 10:33 PM
Its not the power thatll hurt the subs its the heat and distortion from over powering an amp
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Posted By: cutlass013
Date Posted: August 14, 2006 at 10:38 PM
well would it hurt it that is also at 14 volts and i doubt im getting that.... any other suggestions would be great
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: August 15, 2006 at 1:03 AM
That amp will do fine.
Posted By: qnretail
Date Posted: August 26, 2006 at 2:43 AM
I have a Kenwood 9102D and you would do fine with your proposed set-up. These are good amps for the price, as long as you are not paying more than $150 for one. Kenwood is CEA compliant so at least you know the power rating has some merit.. as opposed to that Pyramid which is probably rated at whatever output it can do for 1 milisecond at 100% destortion while being struck by lightning..
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2 x DD9515f's, Digital Designs Z1 amplifier
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: August 26, 2006 at 3:23 AM
The perfect amp......The Xtant 603X.......
Posted By: qnretail
Date Posted: August 26, 2006 at 3:52 AM
Wait until you hear the new Z class amps from Digital Designs.. Although it really just depends on what you are looking for. ------------- 2 x DD9515f's, Digital Designs Z1 amplifier
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: August 26, 2006 at 10:38 AM
Eclipse DA7122. 950 watts at 2 ohms. ICEPowered. CEA. Reliable. Musical. Powerful. Honest. Eclipse.
Crossovers and subsonic filter built in.
Sounds like a perfect amp to me!  ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: russ lund
Date Posted: August 26, 2006 at 11:06 AM
Pyramids and the like have the ILS power rating system. IF LIGHTNING STRIKES !!! The perfect amp! Ha that doesn't exist but I'm trying to design it. ------------- BigDog
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: August 26, 2006 at 12:11 PM
The new Zapco digital referance....AND the I-force. The I-force is TRUE bang for buck!!
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: August 26, 2006 at 7:39 PM
nouseforaname wrote:
so what's the deal with the whole ICE technology? is it really that much better?
Check into it here.
Recently reviewed as the best amplifier technology on the planet, with many accolades world wide... Yeah, it's THAT much better.
Audi recently received " The Best Sounding Car Stereo System In The World", and CES2006, an active system, using ICEpower amplification, received the " Best Sound" award. AMAZING technology, with efficiencies approaching the theoretical limit of 98%, most of the ICEpower modules don't even need heatsinks.
An absolute GOD in the world of high-end amplification, Jeff Rowland has started building his amplifiers on the ICEpower modules. This guy is THE MAN! If you've ever heard his amplifiers, or if you are familiar with the prices he gets for them... (a quick internet search reveals upwards of 6000 dollars US for a USED, ICEpowered M-501, the 500W @ 8 ohm, (1000W @ 4 ohm) monoblock)
After hearing them, I was a convert to Class D amplifiers. Bang and Olufsen has got it DOWN... ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: INSTALLER_MSS
Date Posted: August 27, 2006 at 12:29 AM
zapco is some awesome stuff. IMO, xtant has some good stuff but not anywhere worth the money. the amps are overpriced like crazy and a pain in the @ss to work with in comparison to others. i've installed both brands but not any eclipse. i have heard the are good but i wouldn't say they are perfect. i doubt anyone here has heard of the brands, Mark Antony or U.S.Amps. both build tube amplifiers and are VERY, VERY expensive, but tube amps are the best sound quality you can get.
Posted By: qnretail
Date Posted: August 27, 2006 at 2:36 AM
I have heard of U.S. Amps. From what I've been told they were made a while back and I don't know if they are even in business anymore. Athough I don't know for certain. A buddy of mine has one and if you like that vintage tube sound, I'm sure this would be a gem.
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2 x DD9515f's, Digital Designs Z1 amplifier
Posted By: Paradigm
Date Posted: August 28, 2006 at 2:12 PM
haemphyst wrote:
Eclipse DA7122. 950 watts at 2 ohms. ICEPowered. CEA. Reliable. Musical. Powerful. Honest. Eclipse.
Crossovers and subsonic filter built in.
Sounds like a perfect amp to me!
Okay, haemy, tell me you didn't just cut a promo for Eclipse!  ------------- VEHICLE: 2002 GMC Sonoma ZR2
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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: August 28, 2006 at 3:23 PM
Paradigm wrote:
haemphyst wrote:
Eclipse DA7122. 950 watts at 2 ohms. ICEPowered. CEA. Reliable. Musical. Powerful. Honest. Eclipse.
Crossovers and subsonic filter built in.
Sounds like a perfect amp to me!
Okay, haemy, tell me you didn't just cut a promo for Eclipse!
It does sound that way, doesn't it? BWAHAHAHA ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: August 28, 2006 at 4:18 PM
Seriously, for car audio, class D (or other high efficiency designs) make all the sense in the world.
Eclipse has it right with their ICEPower line.
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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: August 28, 2006 at 6:35 PM
I happen to also choose the Eclipse....imagine that. ------------- Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: oxygen65
Date Posted: August 28, 2006 at 6:51 PM
the pioneer 306c subs are a great sub for the money that they cost and to save you maybe a little bit of money from buying a zapco amp or somethin very high end like that i can tell you this about those subs. they do not need a lot of power to get them to be preaty loud. i had 3 of the dvc versions of those subs but the premier's and i had them hooked up to my ma audio 401sx and i didnt even have the gain half way turned up on the amp and it hit 150.8 i kno someone that just bought 2 oh the exact same subs that you have and he is running it off of a kenwood amp like you are looking at and it is preaty loud. the kenwoods are good with those amps
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