Loudest Woofer

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Topic: Loudest Woofer

Posted By: cloak559
Subject: Loudest Woofer
Date Posted: September 07, 2006 at 8:21 PM

TC Sounds has made the claim that thier new TC-5200 will be the "Loudest Production High Excursion Driver in the World, Period".... I, for one, believe em...TC Sounds has an undisputable reputation for some of the best quality woofers for both SQ and SPL...Im anxious to see this new monster in action. Im pre-ordering an 18" next week posted_image

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https://www.tcsounds.com/tc5200.htm

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'89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz

Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...

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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: September 07, 2006 at 9:25 PM

Sony can claim to have the loudest in the world too. It all depends on how you measure, and how you implement the woofer. There is no such thing as the loudest woofer in the world, only the loudest installations.

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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: September 07, 2006 at 10:24 PM

Holy CRAP 94dB! Finally! But look at the Qts!! Tiny box much? saWHEET! I'll take two!

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

Posted By: coppellstereo
Date Posted: September 07, 2006 at 10:43 PM

looks a lot like a few woofers in Eclipse's lineup to me

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Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: September 07, 2006 at 10:49 PM

cloak559 wrote:

TC Sounds has an undisputable reputation for some of the best quality woofers for both SQ and SPL...[/URL]

That really depends on who you talk to. I know people who would dispute that statement. posted_image

As for the sub, it looks to be highly over-motored and will most likely have a very peaky response.

Posted By: dstang24
Date Posted: September 08, 2006 at 1:06 AM

Again I will avocate for the Pioneer Premier SPL line...

The little brother of the TS-W8102SPL was used in producing a world record in SPL... 180.5dB. We'll see how next weekend goes in GA.

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Posted By: cloak559
Date Posted: September 08, 2006 at 2:32 AM

coppellstereo wrote:

looks a lot like a few woofers in Eclipse's lineup to me

Someone once told me TC Sounds makes Eclipse woofers. But I'm not sure on that...

DYohn] wrote:

Sony can claim to have the loudest in the world too. It all depends on how you measure, and how you implement the woofer. There is no such thing as the loudest woofer in the world, only the loudest installations.

Very true DYohn, Its all about the installation. I'm cusrious to see what numbers I can push after I slap two of the 18"s in my Tahoe. posted_image

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'89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz

Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...

Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: September 08, 2006 at 3:48 AM

cloak559 wrote:

[QUOTE=coppellstereo] looks a lot like a few woofers in Eclipse's lineup to me

Someone once told me TC Sounds makes Eclipse woofers. But I'm not sure on that...

It used to be true. From what I understand, Eclipse dropped them. In the end, TC Sounds wasn't making any of their subs in-house anyway.

Posted By: luckydevil
Date Posted: September 08, 2006 at 9:22 AM

cloak559 wrote:

TC Sounds has made the claim that thier new TC-5200 will be the "Loudest Production High Excursion Driver in the World, Period".... I, for one, believe em...

They lied. This was posted on here before...

Tsuzureko

Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: September 08, 2006 at 9:58 AM

The Tsuzureko is not a true high-excursion driver... Let's start by comparing apples to apples. At only 14mm Xmax, the TC-5200 will SMASH it, with 60mm linear, and move at least 100% more air, linearly... I've got 7 inch woofers that'll move 14mm...

The TC-5200 18" has 4 times the linear output of a regular 18, so, according to their math, a single TC-5200 will move twice the air of one 25 inch Tsuzureko.

As far as raw efficiency numbers, there are MANY people that can blast that 96dB into the weeds. Check into Blue Monsters, by P-Audio. If memory serves me correctly, they had an 18 with a 102dB efficiency, with 300 wat power handling capacity, but the Xmax was only 3 or 4 mm... Musical instrument/PA purpose built, it isn't even in the same class, but then neither is the Tsuzureko/TC-5200 comparison.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

Posted By: luckydevil
Date Posted: September 08, 2006 at 10:06 AM

Well damn haemphyst, I stand corrected.

Posted By: cloak559
Date Posted: September 08, 2006 at 12:38 PM

haemphyst wrote:

The Tsuzureko is not a true high-excursion driver... Let's start by comparing apples to apples. At only 14mm Xmax, the TC-5200 will SMASH it, with 60mm linear, and move at least 100% more air, linearly... I've got 7 inch woofers that'll move 14mm...

Very good points haemphyst...When you compare the TC-5200, you have to line it up with woofers like the RE XXX, The MTX-9500, DD audio, and other "High Excursion Drivers"...

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'89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz

Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...