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Actually we got off easy. Used Ham's door panels as a mold, covered them with tin foil and layed in the glass. took them out and filled with expanding foam. After the foam hardened cut it to shape and made MDF rings for the drivers. Layed another layer of glass over everything mounted drivers and covered with grill cloth. Done.

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There is no such thing as free installation!

Flakman wrote:

Haem...that's not fair posting without the pics

I wasn't even there to see the process, but the guys said they took snaps as they were being built... I've got a/my company picnic to emcee today (lucky me - I was conscribed to it...) so I won't even be able to work on wiring it in today. posted_image

TOMORROW, though... I may (although WILL is I think, more accurate...) have to do some serious cutting to get the Adires jammed into the doors, but they're going in, dammit! I figured about 450 watts per door, tri-amped, will be the final power tally. I have hopes for this system like nobody on this board can even imagine. posted_image

This is 5 years of acquiring of components, and more time than that designing and installing, and putting in "good enough for now" systems, people! <Dave scratches his head and thinks, "Has it really been that long? Jeez, I gotta get more sunlight.">

forbidden wrote:

So, how did we take on this task.....any moving of the window motors involved or did you opt for plan B?

Plan B... Flushed into the surface. Sure the surface is three inches further INTO the passenger compartment than it was before... posted_image

And finally... 66 people have looked, but is NOBODY interested in a babied, like new Eclipse SW9122? posted_image

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

haemphyst wrote:

will be the final power tally. I have hopes for this system like nobody on this board can even imagine.

Bold.... very bold. Hope your work pays off and wait till I get the time to work on my project vehicle. It will be a couple year project in the works, but when I'm done " I have hopes for this system like nobody on this board can even imagine. " Let's see some pics Dude !!

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Velocity Motors wrote:

haemphyst wrote:

will be the final power tally. I have hopes for this system like nobody on this board can even imagine.

Bold.... very bold. Hope your work pays off and wait till I get the time to work on my project vehicle. It will be a couple year project in the works, but when I'm done " I have hopes for this system like nobody on this board can even imagine. " Let's see some pics Dude !!

OK... ...like very few people on this board can even imagine.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

There will be rear, but only bass. In the front doors, the Adire Extremis 6.8 will run from maybe 80 to 100 Hz and up to 350Hz with a dedicated 200wpc. The low frequency cross-in point of this driver will be determined in the tuning stage.

The mids will be handled by a custom (Harman modified) Vifa mid, running from 350Hz to 4kHz, with a dedicated (approximate) 120wpc.

The higs are handled by the newly acquired JL silk-dome tweeters, 4K and up, with a dedicated 85wpc.

Sub bass (and I do mean SUB bass) will be two TCSounds TC1000 10" subwoofers, in one cubic foot each, powered by the Eclipse DA7232. I am planning a relay system with a control switch in the dash to switch between 8 ohm load, producing around 450 WRMS per woofer, and 2 ohm load, providing around 950 WRMS per woofer, and providing an additional 6dB of sensitivity, too. These will be subsonic high-passed at around 20 to 22Hz, and low-passed at 50Hz.

All wires are Monster, with 14g for the tweeters and mids and 12g for the Adires.

Processing is handled by the VERY capable (and quite expensive, I might add) Alto UCSPro Digital Control System. Two of those in the system - one for the rears and one for the doors. Amplification and head unit, are of course, Eclipse.

The rear deck will have Tang-Band 7 inch subwoofers, running from the sub crossover point of 50Hz up to the Adires in the door.

All crossover points will be as steep as possible, minimum 36dB. The rear drivers will all be 48dB slopes.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

I hope to post the pictures today.

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There is no such thing as free installation!

Sounds like a good foundation, and like a real potential female dog to get the crossovers and levels all tweaked. Time for a serious RTA and probably hours of EQ work, my friend. Have a great time doing it, I know I would! posted_image

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hmmm I dont see anything about a charging system for all that power...hehe I know you did something.. Right?

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2009 0-1000 Trunk WR 154.0DB 2009 1001+ Trunk WR
2007 USACI World Champion
2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place

You gotta let me know how those TC-1k's work out, i'm looking around for two 10"s for my girls hatchback...

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'89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz

Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...

jeffchilcott wrote:

hmmm I dont see anything about a charging system for all that power...hehe I know you did something.. Right?

Well.. yeah! 165A from Alterstart.

DYohn] wrote:

Sounds like a good foundation, and like a real potential female dog to get the crossovers and levels all tweaked. Time for a serious RTA and probably hours of EQ work, my friend. Have a great time doing it, I know I would!

Can do... TrueRTA 4th level, ECM8000, M-Audio MobilePre USB... oughta do pretty well...

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

Haem, you really ought to be more prepared before getting into your new system posted_image

You're just flying by the seat of your pants, huh? LOL

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The Flakman
I feel strange. I have deja vu and amnesia at the same time.

John | Manteca, CA

Flakman wrote:

Haem, you really ought to be more prepared before getting into your new system You're just flying by the seat of your pants, huh? LOL

Yeah, that's me... Dave "Seat-of-the-pants" Dxxxxxxxx!

I really shoould research and prepare more, shouldn't I?

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

so where are these pictures we are all wainting on !!!!!

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2009 0-1000 Trunk WR 154.0DB 2009 1001+ Trunk WR
2007 USACI World Champion
2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place

I guess I'll have to post em... seems Bob is just too busy. posted_image

However, all I have is snaps of the finished door panels. BTW, anybody know a better photobucket than PhotoBucket.com?

Since I'll be working on the system tomorrow, I'll take some more, always remember though, this system is a second generation... It'll be not terribly pretty at all... aka "work in progress"

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

haemphyst wrote:

BTW, anybody know a better photobucket than PhotoBucket.com?

Send me the pictures over AIM or email and ill put em on my FTP...No hassles with advertisements or tedious uploading...

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'89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz

Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...

Bob, the SAF on those pods is about an 8.5! FAR better than I could have hoped for! Thanks, again!

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

We're all dying to see some pics. Even recent lurkers. :)

Sounds like a killer system though. Not that I'd expect anything else from haemphyst.

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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder

Mission FAILED, we asked to see your pictures...No one likes a braggart that cant back it up.....haha posted_image

now put up some pictures DizAmit!

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2009 0-1000 Trunk WR 154.0DB 2009 1001+ Trunk WR
2007 USACI World Champion
2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place

Sorry about the lack of pics guys. School has started for all of my guys and we're a little short handed. The guy with the pics works tomorrow, I'll do my best.

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There is no such thing as free installation!

Here's your darn pictures! posted_image

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Fiberglass is laid.

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Fiberglass base mold is trimmed.

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Expandable foam after drying.

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Foam after shaping and inserting the tweeter cup and MDF ring for the mid.

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Wrapping the foam in tinfoil keeps the resin and glue from dissolving the foam. Trust me posted_image

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Door pods after a layer of fiberglass cloth and resin.

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Covered in carpet for padding and sound deadening. Also provides a dark background for the grille cloth.

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Final product is wired and wrapped in black grille cloth and mounted to the door panel.

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Nice and shiny, here's the other side completed.

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The Hamfist-Mobile

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All installed..

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The view from the driver's seat.

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There is no such thing as free installation!

very nice....Kinda give me a diffrent perspective of how people are doing these cars...I would like to do a set of 6.5 components with a set of 8in MB this winter in the doors in our civic...But it wont be till this winter I need to concentrate on getting loud first for USACi world Finals

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2009 0-1000 Trunk WR 154.0DB 2009 1001+ Trunk WR
2007 USACI World Champion
2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place

I, too, was very pleased with the results... Very incognito...

Thanks for the photos, Bob!

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

Hey Dave, I didn't see any smoke to the southeast, so I'm assuming you got yours highs up and running? How does it sound?

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There is no such thing as free installation!

Nice looking...not that I expected anything less posted_image

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The Flakman
I feel strange. I have deja vu and amnesia at the same time.

John | Manteca, CA

That is beautiful gentlemen. Bob, your team does very professional work. Everyone should be proud.

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Agreed...I may have to make a trip to SoCal for some help on my next car. I will definitely utilize your team's expertise.

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The Flakman
I feel strange. I have deja vu and amnesia at the same time.

John | Manteca, CA

tcss] wrote:

Hey Dave, I didn't see any smoke to the southeast, so I'm assuming you got yours highs up and running? How does it sound?

Well it rained on Sunday, so I couldn't finish them then... and I was busy all the rest of the week for my trip to Vegas (from which, I just returned...)

Still gotta figure out how to put those Adires in the doors... It ain't gonna be easy!

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

haemphyst wrote:

I was busy all the rest of the week for my trip to Vegas (from which, I just returned...)

So what'd you do in vegas??? posted_image

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'89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz

Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...

Hey ladies, and gentlemen! The doors are wired, the Adires in their new homes! While not fully EQ'd yet, the present results are promising, and will be PLENTY loud for me. Again, for the power in the system, others may say "Why doesn't it get any louder?" but for me, the guy who is forever on the SQ quest... plenty loud.

Bob, (Dave, Rob, Jeff, et al...) the Adires went in the doors with the spacers I had made. No modification to the structure of the doors, (as was feared) I did however have to completely lose the map pockets (inside the door panel). Pictures will follow, just have to resize them from the 5.1MP down to something a bit more manageable.

Looks like Dave is buying new door panels when he sells this beast, something he desperately wanted to avoid!

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

::::Update::::

Well, the windows hit the magnets... I was on the way to the grocery store this morning, and damned if I didnt want to roll the windows down...

BANG. Right into the magnets. Only about 3/8 of an inch high, so I think I'll have to live with it, but DAMMIT, I thought I had it all figured out.

(Dave scratches his head...) Maybe I can grind a notch out of the window glass...

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

When installing a set of Koda components in a Chevy S-10 Blazer we would put a spacer on the window track to get the extra space we needed. It worked like a charm. You may be able to do the same. They are unfortunately a deep speaker. But you can't get any shallower with that kind of excursion.

Already put a spacer in... a 1" thick spacer! That was just to keep the magnet from touching the brace in the door! Can't go any deeper, as I am already VERY close to the inside door panel. What's that about excursion? posted_image

Can you say "hitting the surround"?

Oh, and for those of you interested? I've never heard anything better in the doors of a car than the Extremis 6.8... Get 'em! You won't go wrong, you CAN'T go wrong, if you can fit 'em in! posted_image

I have them crossed in at 80Hz @ 48dB, right now, and I almost don't even need any subwoofer! Fast and articulate as well! AWESOME drivers!

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

Dave what about grinding the magnets down? ( Just kidding ) My guy Jeff, who built your pods will be in tomorrow. He and I will do a little brain storming to see if we can come up with an answer to your problem. I'll be in touch.

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There is no such thing as free installation!

haemphyst wrote:

Oh, and for those of you interested? I've never heard anything better in the doors of a car than the Extremis 6.8... Get 'em! You won't go wrong, you CAN'T go wrong, if you can fit 'em in!

I have them crossed in at 80Hz @ 48dB, right now, and I almost don't even need any subwoofer! Fast and articulate as well! AWESOME drivers!

I second that. I continue to be impressed with my Extremis loaded home speakers (Exodus 2641s and Exodus 61s) on a daily basis.

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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder

OK, I promised pictures... so here they are!

Image 1 - The door panel cut out.
Image 2 - The trim ring happily placed...
Image 3 - Extremis at home, finally
Image 4 - Doesn't LOOK close, but trust me, it is.
Image 5 - Another shot of the panels, all in place, now.
Image 6 - Dammit... didn't want to have to do that.
Image 7 - Another shot of the door panel without the map pocket.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

I like the oak leaf in the first image, looks real nature like.

That last image shows some interesting dynamat patterns, sort of a mosaic look posted_image

I must compliment you on those speaker rings very nice. Good to see your project came along in a timely fashion. I may be looking at some glassing for my subs now.

Nice David!!

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dwarren wrote:

I like the oak leaf in the first image, looks real nature like.

Ah, I see it, now... The "oak leaf" is a dollop of liquid nails from the very first install... it anchored the passive crossover to the door skin... ROFL OK, so it's a bit overkill, but I told you that was my middle name!

dwarren wrote:

That last image shows some interesting dynamat patterns, sort of a mosaic look

Yeah, I like it... posted_image

dwarren wrote:

I must compliment you on those speaker rings very nice. Good to see your project came along in a timely fashion. I may be looking at some glassing for my subs now.

My buddy Dave cut those for me on his sign cutter. A 5 by 10 platform with a 7HP, 30 kRPM router, that can do 3 9's accuracy on X, Y and Z axes. Took him about 3 minutes to cut 'em in 8 passes!! Nice. Like a finger in a nose... I had to manufacture the 1 inch MDF, tho... wasn't gonna buy a whole sheet for those two little rings!

dwarren wrote:

Nice David!!

Thanks, Dan!

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

They run about 200 the pair. Worth every penny! I can have spacers made, as well, should you need them. Those'd be about 20 to 50 a pair, depending on thickness.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

I got mine directly from Dan Wiggins. Steven shipped them to me like, 2 years ago...

Kyle, over at Acoustic Visions has them in stock, apparently. I was unaware of the availability of the 4 ohm versions, but there they are... Mine are 8 ohms.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."