RMS?
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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=83739
Printed Date: May 08, 2025 at 7:35 AM
Topic: RMS?
Posted By: lamigra05
Subject: RMS?
Date Posted: October 05, 2006 at 2:06 PM
whats the difference between RMS and regular watts? it gets confusing trying to learn things on your own. also i would like to add, ive been eyeing this kicker but it doesnt say anything about powering 4 ohm speakers, only 2 and 1. does this matter?
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Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: October 05, 2006 at 2:11 PM
RMS is the average continuous wattage the amp supplies.
Posted By: jonathancullen
Date Posted: October 05, 2006 at 2:13 PM
when hooking up a (1)subwoofer to your amp that is 4 ohms your amp needs to also be 4 ohms.
Posted By: lamigra05
Date Posted: October 05, 2006 at 2:20 PM
how will i know if its dropped below the ohm load?
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Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: October 05, 2006 at 2:24 PM
A giant mushroom cloud will appear above your amp! No seriously it most likely will just shut off and go into protection.
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Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: October 05, 2006 at 5:18 PM
You can definitely use a 4 ohm speaker on your amp. It will not make as much power as it is capable of with this load but there is NO REASON that you can't use the woofer you already have. And When it is time to upgrade buy another exactly like you have and then you will be able to run your amp 2 Ohm which will make more power and you will see an audible difference by doubling your cone area and doubling your power
Posted By: jonathancullen
Date Posted: October 05, 2006 at 5:37 PM
wow lol, that didnt come out right. i was trying to type fast at school 
Posted By: jettagli03
Date Posted: October 05, 2006 at 8:31 PM
What about going over the ohm load rated by the amplifier?
My friend picked up a Rockford P1 12" 8ohm for free and has been playing it with a Scosche amp bridged that says it should be a max of 4ohms when playing through bridged. Seems to be working as it should, just wondering what will happen? Anything?
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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: October 05, 2006 at 9:42 PM
An amplifier can be used with any load that is GREATER than the lowest rated loading. Meaning, if an amplifier is rated at XX watts @ 2-ohms, any load greater than or equal to 2-ohms may be used. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: October 06, 2006 at 8:07 PM
Jetta I am sure that your amp wants to see a 4 ohm minimum load not Max. thus meaning it will be OK to run it at 8 ohms/mono or at 4 ohms/mono but not safe to run at the 2ohm mono
Posted By: Big Dog
Date Posted: October 06, 2006 at 8:18 PM
Then there's the debate about the difference between resistance and impedance. You'll notice that an 8 ohm sub can have an impedance to 25 ohms for example at a particular frequency. If this happens to be the tuned frequency of the enclosure then your amp sees 25 ohms.....not 8! Find out the box tuning then the primary frequency of your listening music and you'd probably see that your sub might actually be protecting itself and you have nothing to worry about. A true idea of the impedance your amp is seeing is to use an impedance meter. Another way would be to punch the TS parems into an enclosure design software and plot the impedance given the box volume and port if it has one. Simple huh!? ------------- Prepare your future. It wasn't the lack of stones that killed the stone age.
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: October 06, 2006 at 9:51 PM
Simple as WinISD
Posted By: witzeln
Date Posted: October 07, 2006 at 9:22 PM
RMS is root mean square. it is an ac value or the efficient value. it is the value that comes out from your multimeter IF it is at AC mode NOT dc. AC signal is a sine wave. hence, it has a peak value. peak value and rms is different. peak value is the peak of the curve. a good amplifier outputs a purely AC signal. If a DC signal joins the AC signal, the output might be clipped off due to the dc signal. Clipped off signal results to a distorted audio signal. and if the DC value is too huge that goes to your speaker, it might burn up;moreover, if the amplifier do not use a speaker protection, you can hear hums due to dc signal. About the Ohm or load, the 4 Ohm is the maximum value (with respect to the current that will flow) that the amplifier can handle. from ohm's law, current is equal to VOLTAGE divided by RESISTANCE, thus, if your resistance is too low(meaning less than 4 Ohm), the current that will flow to the load will increase. for example, try to use a 2 Ohm load, the output current will increase and so output power will increase because power is directly proportional to voltage and current, but the components used might burn up due to exceeding the rated value which is 4 ohm. If you use an 8 Ohm load, the output power will decrease due to high resistance of the load. Ohm is a unit of resistance, while, resistance is the capacity of a component to control a current. always remeber, current is lazy. it hates to pass a high resistance component. every component has its own resistance. resistance can be measured using an ohmeter. remove all sources and isolate the component before measuring its resistance.and it has no polarity.
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: October 08, 2006 at 12:56 AM
Even a crappy amp will put out a "pure" sine wave or ac signal
Posted By: witzeln
Date Posted: October 09, 2006 at 4:24 AM
aznboi3644 wrote:
Even a crappy amp will put out a "pure" sine wave or ac signal
yes of course it can, by using a bypass capacitor.
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: October 09, 2006 at 11:07 AM
witzeln wrote:
aznboi3644 wrote:
Even a crappy amp will put out a "pure" sine wave or ac signal
yes of course it can, by using a bypass capacitor.
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Posted By: fakepete
Date Posted: October 09, 2006 at 2:10 PM
I would love to hear an explination of a "bypass capacitor"
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: October 09, 2006 at 6:04 PM
lol please witzeln...further explain this "bypass capacitor"??
And why couldn't a cheap amp put out a "pure sine wave"??
Posted By: witzeln
Date Posted: October 10, 2006 at 12:54 AM
bypass capacitor is used in amplifiers that uses transistors. it is a capacitor(mylar or ceramic). the reason they use it, so that no dc signal will go out. capacitors acts like an open circuit when you apply a dc signal to them. it acts like a short circuit when you apply an ac signal.
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: October 10, 2006 at 10:44 AM
Yes, most amplifier topologies use a capacitor and resistor to ground on the output stage to help shunt DC. Some use coupling capacitors in series with the output. There are many uses for caps in amplifier circuitry, but they are not what creates or enables an AC output from the amplifier. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: October 10, 2006 at 9:11 PM
Why would someone even argue that only quality amplifiers put out "pure sine waves"...or pure ac current only
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