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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=85043
Printed Date: May 24, 2022 at 4:09 PM


Topic: jl audio?

Posted By: oxygen65
Subject: jl audio?
Date Posted: November 02, 2006 at 9:49 PM

im looking at going with 6 w1v2's or 2 13w6v2's and im wondering what is going to louder?



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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: November 02, 2006 at 10:24 PM
Still depends on enclosure man...

Um dunno which size w1v2's your talking about but if they are 12's I'd say those....more cone surface area and higher power handling and better efficiency.




Posted By: oxygen65
Date Posted: November 02, 2006 at 10:28 PM

the 13 inch 8 ohm version





Posted By: advanced_audio
Date Posted: November 03, 2006 at 1:34 AM
hell if u got the space id say the six w1s good luck post some pics any way u go




Posted By: stick42
Date Posted: November 03, 2006 at 3:17 PM
aznboi3644 wrote:

Still depends on enclosure man...

Um dunno which size w1v2's your talking about but if they are 12's I'd say those....more cone surface area and higher power handling and better efficiency.



Agreed, if you are looking for loud there is no substitute for surface area.




Posted By: oxygen65
Date Posted: November 03, 2006 at 8:50 PM
well i will make the room becuse 6 of 13's in the back of a blazer will not be that hard to do in a fiberglass box, and not to mention that 6 13's just looks a hell of a lot cooler than just 2 subs. the only thing im worried about is buying a amp to power them, i need a 1 ohm stable amp. i want to put around 350 rms into each sub so thats 2100 rms, the problem is i dont want to spend to much money on a amp. i was looking at a earthquake phd5000 but im not sure if that is 1 ohm stable or 2 ohm. i think its 2 ohm. any help?




Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: November 05, 2006 at 8:48 AM
for 6 subs you are probably looking at atleast 2 maybe 3 amps.




Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: November 05, 2006 at 9:38 AM
Dude if you want to run that much power and not spend much money....your gonna have to look for a new alternator bud




Posted By: oxygen65
Date Posted: November 05, 2006 at 7:24 PM
ok well im way ahead on this whole thing, i ddint need people to tell me what ti need to do to my car or how to power them becuse i have preaty much figured it out except for what amp to acutally get. anyways  with the 6 subs i would only need one amp that is 1 ohm stable becuse the subs are single 8 ohm voice coils witch gives a ohm load a little over 1 ohm, and i also already have a ho alternator and 0 gauge run throught my car along with a capacitor.  so as the original post stated with setup do you thing you would be louder




Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: November 06, 2006 at 12:33 AM
The 6 subs would be a lot easier to get louder...more efficiency and cone surface




Posted By: gregory863
Date Posted: November 06, 2006 at 4:02 AM
do you even own a car? i didn't hear you mention what you drive.

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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: November 06, 2006 at 4:22 PM
oxygen65 wrote:

well i will make the room becuse 6 of 13's in the back of a blazer will not be that hard to do in a fiberglass box, and not to mention that 6 13's just looks a hell of a lot cooler than just 2 subs. the only thing im worried about is buying a amp to power them, i need a 1 ohm stable amp. i want to put around 350 rms into each sub so thats 2100 rms, the problem is i dont want to spend to much money on a amp. i was looking at a earthquake phd5000 but im not sure if that is 1 ohm stable or 2 ohm. i think its 2 ohm. any help?




Posted By: suicidecustom
Date Posted: November 08, 2006 at 8:20 PM
Hate to tell ya bud but pushing 350 watts each to 13w1's will void your warranty. your total power to 6 13w1v2 drivers should not exceed1200 watts rms. around 150 to 175 watts each is going to be optimum. the best amp for this will be JL's 1000/1, 1.5 ohm stable. at my shop we just finished an install in a 2000 f150 standard cab, we did a cutthrough with 4 12w1v2 subs with a JL 500/1 pushing them, an absolutly mind numbing amount of bass, and from just 500 watts.




Posted By: j_darling2007
Date Posted: November 09, 2006 at 6:21 PM

1000 watts from JL mean alot more than the 1000 watts you "Get" from 90% of the other amps out there, too.  Plus it is practically bullet proof.



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Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: November 09, 2006 at 6:57 PM
oxygen65 wrote:

so as the original post stated with setup do you thing you would be louder


Generally speaking, given the same amount of power, the larger cone area will produce 'louder' results.

Uhh... oxygen.. I think you asked me this question the beginning of the summer (I was away, sorry I never got back to ya)... but uhh...

Look.. either hypothetical setup will be loud enough to permanently damage your hearing after a few minutes of exposure.. I'm really not sure what the Frankenstein-like mods required to pursue the.. I dunno... 9cft of internal box volume that 6x13's would require could possibly be worth in the face of such sublime perfection presented by a pair of 13w6's..

oxygen65 wrote:

the problem is i dont want to spend to much money on a amp


What is this earthquake phd5000?! That behemoth costs like 2K!

Look.. if I had *any* amount of money to spend on a subwoofer setup.. given tradeoff's in box-size, power mods required, etc... a list would START with a pair of w6's backed by a 1000/1. You really can't get any more badass.



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Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: November 10, 2006 at 9:16 AM
[QUOTE}given the same amount of power, the larger cone area will produce 'louder' results.[/QUOTE]
Not true. Larger surface area will push more air, but that's not going to help you if the speaker has low sensitivity. That's the whole reason for that spec.




Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: November 11, 2006 at 1:37 AM
Look dude, if your going to quote me, at least do it properly and include my disclaimers.

sedate wrote:

Generally speaking, given the same amount of power, the larger cone area will produce 'louder' results.


The little precendent there in the beginning of the sentence? "Generally Speaking" ... as in "you could come up with exceptions, but GENERALLY" ...

Anyway, point being 6x13w1's or whatever craziness Oxygen was talking will *definately* be louder than 2w6's... just for sheer displacement.

I dunno those w1's look pretty beefy anyway..

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