klw xa 25
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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=90536
Printed Date: May 02, 2024 at 1:52 PM
Topic: klw xa 25
Posted By: haemphyst
Subject: klw xa 25
Date Posted: February 16, 2007 at 1:05 AM
I have been all over the internet, looking for a manual for this animal... Would ANYONE here have access to, or know where one could lay hands upon, the manual for this beast? KLW was purchased YEARS ago by Carver, and now that Carver no longer exists in any recognizable form, my chances of finding a manual for this are dwindling. You guys are my last hope(s).
Really, all I need is the formulae to figure the resistors so I can use it again. AWESOME piece of gear, but all I have is a resistor network for (I think) 50Hz, and I'd like to be able to use it for other frequencies as well.
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: February 19, 2007 at 10:57 PM
Really... NOBODY knows what happened to them or how to contact them?? Not even you, Dave?
(OK, really, it's a bump...)
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 12:38 AM
I had several of the KLW Audio/Carver processors. Dan Wiggins actually had a couple of their amps, but those were post Carver too. A picture of it is below. Do you think it would use the same crossover as your amp? If so, Dan may have the manual somewhere for it. Could you bypass it and just use an outboard crossover? https://www.adireaudio.com/Files/KLW-BroadwayAmp.jpg
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 10:15 AM
Actually, the XA-25 is an external crossover, 2-way stereo, or 3-way mono. I couldn't tell you whether these were pre- or post Carver, (although I'm pretty sure it was pre-). Would Dan still have crossover resistors that he could at least get me VALUES of? The modules simply plug into 6-pin sockets on the board, and I have acutally used in the past, 1/8 watt 1% resistors, bent to fit. It worked perfectly, I just don't have the formulae to figure the resistor values anymore.
I have a pair of them, that I want to implement in my "Multimedia System From Hell".  Yes, a 3-way actively crossed-over COMPUTER SYSTEM! Lows are handled by a (already built, and CRAZY) single 10" Aura in an 18" 2.2 cube PR enclosure (powered with 220W RMS, and flat at 18Hz in room, BTW), mids mid-bass are to be determined, but I'm thinking these: TangBand 7's (powered with 200W RMS) in sealed enclosures (because I have a pair of them, already. I think they'll do OK in an on-axis, near-field application like a PC speaker system), and the highs are Vifa D-26 1" fabric domes (powered with 50W RMS). I'm thinking that'll be dynamic enough even for me! ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 10:46 AM
Well actually I do have a couple of KLW/Carver pieces, a center channel processor and an amplifier. They are both stored away at home but I don't remember the model numbers. Finding tech info on these old guys is very difficult... I'll see if I can help ya. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 11:03 AM
Cool... Thanks, Dave! I figured if ANYBODY here could help me out with info regarding these or the company, it'd be you. I know that KLW/Carver doesn't exist anymore (at least I haven't been able to find anything regarding them anymore), but SOMEBODY has to have information about them and/or their products somewhere... I know Bob Carver is still running about, doing business with Sunfire (his latest baby) but his namesake company is sadly and completely defunct, it seems.
If they use 6 pin resistor networks (wired 1-2, 3-4, and 5-6) for selecting the crossover points, if you could even measure those and give me a resistor value and corresponding crossover frequency, that'd be PERFECT. The more of those I can dump into a spreadsheet, the better off I'll be for figuring other resistor values.
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 11:07 AM
I sent a message to a guy I know at Phoenix Gold. We'll see if they obtained the tech library when they bought the old Carver line. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: kicker guy
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 11:45 AM
i personally don't know but maybe someone here could help u https://www.carveraudio.com/phpBB2/index.php It looks like someone there might be able to get you a manual or something
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 12:51 PM
Thanks, kicker guy... Found that forum the other night is my return to the quest. There is already one guy looking for the same information I am looking for, and his post has been up for quite a while with 88 views, but no responses. However, while going back over some of the other stuff, I did find a location in Oregon claiming to have acquired the entire Carver repair parts inventory. I'm going to contact them and see if there is anything they can do for me.
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 2:06 PM
No joy from Phoenix Gold. According to my contact when they acquired the Carver line it did not include any information on car audio gear. Sorry. Your best bet is to find someone who has one and buy a copy of the manual, or perhaps the service center you mention might have it. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 3:08 PM
Thanks for the effort, Dave! Yeah, I think my next try is the Oregon company. On the phone with them right now, in fact.
Well, Rolland was sort of able to help me. He said that they did in fact get all of the KLW/Carver manuals and parts inventory. He does have them, but they are "buried in boxes". For anybody needing KLW/Carver audio repair, try contacting Rolland at Carver Audio Repair. He seems like a nice enough guy. Phone 503-618-7605.
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WOOHOO!!! I LOVE Elliott Sound! After even MORE poking around on the internet, with even MORE widespread search words, I was able to find this page... All I need to do is go poking around in there and find the capacitor values for the crossovers, then go backwards from there! I knew there had to be a way to figure the values! ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 9:19 PM
DYohn] wrote:
ell actually I do have a couple of KLW/Carver pieces, a center channel processor and an amplifier. They are both stored away at home but I don't remember the model numbers. Finding tech info on these old guys is very difficult... I'll see if I can help ya.
I had that processor, along with the sub processor (which only seemed to add distortion), the 15 band EQ, and the rear delay processor. Fun stuff.
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