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Topic: us manufactured mobile electronics equipm

Posted By: csnut18
Subject: us manufactured mobile electronics equipm
Date Posted: March 24, 2007 at 7:14 PM

Hi everyone, I was wondering if people could list car audio equipment manufacturers that design and assemble all their stuff In the US. I have been intersted to know this for awhile and any input would be appreciated.



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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: March 24, 2007 at 7:55 PM

Heres one for remote start product's. Allthough not US, but still North America.

www.astroflex.com  EVERYTHING else is made "overseas"



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Posted By: lspker
Date Posted: March 24, 2007 at 8:19 PM

Autostart was built in Canada, but now that DEi has gobbed them up, who knows.

US Amps still designs and builds 1 and 1/2 of their line in US.

I believe AVI still builds it speakers in Canada.

JL Audio in Florida, parts from China, assembeded here, does that count?





Posted By: csnut18
Date Posted: March 24, 2007 at 9:14 PM
thanx guys. I was under the impression that arc audio and memphis car audio were completely made in america, am i wrong? Also I think rockford fosgate as well but that one i am not sure about. correct me if I am wrong




Posted By: audiocableguy
Date Posted: March 24, 2007 at 10:23 PM
Zapco, except for the Force line. the new ZED Audio (steve "mad man" Mantz). McIntosh, Eminence Speakers (you would be surprised who they build speakers for). JBL (the Crown stuff). I will find more . . .




Posted By: csnut18
Date Posted: March 24, 2007 at 10:45 PM
ok so am i correct that memphis car audio and rockford fosgate are made in america?




Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: March 25, 2007 at 12:20 AM
I think memphis and rockford are both assembled in korea along with Kicker.

I do know Digital Designs is still designed and made in the USA

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2007 USACI World Champion
2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place




Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: March 25, 2007 at 2:18 AM
I believe Mcintosh is still made here. The Arc SE series is made here, however some parts are mfd. in asia.

I hope you are asking simply out of curiosity, as foreign made equipment can still be just as good as gear made here. Equipment made in the far east can be manufactured under the same stringent quality measures that are employed here, like tolernaces and specs that are just as precise as their american made counter parts.

And certainly one wouldn't discount European made gear, some of the finest amplifiers and speakers are made and designed in Europe. Brax, Sinfoni, DLS, Genisis, etc.

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Posted By: loosingmymind
Date Posted: March 25, 2007 at 3:23 PM
Genesis! Great stuff. Also US Amps And RE Subs are asian parts and assembled in the USA. Thanks lspkr! My shop sells US amps Exterminator and Merlin 2 line. Merlin 2 still made like US Amps were decades ago.

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USACi World Finals 2006
4th Place SQ PRO 601+




Posted By: csnut18
Date Posted: March 25, 2007 at 8:34 PM
Are you sure memphis car audio is not manufactured in the us? I was almost positive it was




Posted By: 82urq
Date Posted: March 26, 2007 at 2:20 PM
From what people have come up with so far I would say less then 1 percentposted_image




Posted By: supersix4
Date Posted: March 27, 2007 at 11:10 AM

csnut18 wrote:

Are you sure memphis car audio is not manufactured in the us? I was almost positive it was

Why not just contact them and ask??



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Posted By: inflames989
Date Posted: March 27, 2007 at 2:02 PM
kicker is manufactured in the U.S. I know that because my dealer only sells U.S. subs and because it says it right on the website

Kicker.com wrote:

KICKER Car Audio products are designed and manufactured by Stillwater Designs, headquartered in Stillwater, Oklahoma.




Posted By: ericgee
Date Posted: March 29, 2007 at 7:52 PM
Kicker.com wrote:
KICKER Car Audio products are designed and manufactured by Stillwater Designs, headquartered in Stillwater, Oklahoma.
_________________________________________________________________________

i think the key word is headquarted, they did not say anything about built or designed.... catch phrase....
that is good writing though...




Posted By: loosingmymind
Date Posted: March 29, 2007 at 8:22 PM

ericgee wrote:

Kicker.com wrote:
KICKER Car Audio products are designed and manufactured by Stillwater Designs, headquartered in Stillwater, Oklahoma.
_________________________________________________________________________

i think the key word is headquarted, they did not say anything about built or designed.... catch phrase....
that is good writing though...

Designed and manufactured means designed and built. Right?



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David Fancher
USACi World Finals 2006
4th Place SQ PRO 601+




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: March 29, 2007 at 10:02 PM
Well, what it REALLY says is the Stillwater Designs is headquartered in Stillwater, OK. It does NOT say that it does not have MANUFACTURING FACILITIES in other places in the world.

Manufactured BY, yes. Headquartered IN, yes. But manufactured IN? Nope. Says nothing of the sort.

For it to MEAN that, it should say Designed by Stillwater Designs, and manufactured by Stillwater Designs IN Stillwater, OK.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: March 29, 2007 at 11:13 PM
JL Audio only assembles thier high end drivers in Miramar, Flordia. Thier amplifiers and most of their speakers were orginally manufactured in Taiwan and now they are manufactured in China. They made this switch when they released thier first amplifier line (the venerable 'slash' series of amps) and revamped their speaker offerings back in like 99.

McIntosh makes it a point of pride to me completely made in America. When you pay some 2 large for a 4 channel then that sort of a thing is possible.

CDT is the only other company I know of that is designed and manufactured in the US. California no less.

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Posted By: csnut18
Date Posted: March 30, 2007 at 12:02 AM
I really want to buy a US AMPS product but their 5 channel amp is 1000 dollars. I can get a 5 channel amp from kicker for under 300 bucks and that has the same exact power ratings. Thats over three kicker for the price of one us amp. I know the us amps are prob better but in the overall picture kicker is a well known brand so i cant justify the massive price difference




Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: March 30, 2007 at 12:34 AM
loosingmymind wrote:

ericgee wrote:

Kicker.com wrote:
KICKER Car Audio products are designed and manufactured by Stillwater Designs, headquartered in Stillwater, Oklahoma.
_________________________________________________________________________

i think the key word is headquarted, they did not say anything about built or designed.... catch phrase....
that is good writing though...

Designed and manufactured means designed and built. Right?





As much as I love Kicker, and use thier product.   They still are made in china.    Have a kicker product near you?   read the fine print,

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have a Master case of kicker product READ THE BIG LABEL ON THE SIDE!

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2007 USACI World Champion
2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place




Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: March 30, 2007 at 12:39 AM
And I suppose you can check these too, yes the fine print from left to right........rolls of 1/0 wire MADE IN CHINA Kicker Zx1500.1's MADE IN CHINA Kicker S10L7D2 MADE IN CHINA   Kicker S12L5D2 MADE IN CHINA

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2009 0-1000 Trunk WR 154.0DB 2009 1001+ Trunk WR
2007 USACI World Champion
2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place




Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: March 30, 2007 at 2:02 AM
I would do anything to have rolls and rolls of power wire like that just laying around.

I dunno about the girl though. They usually get kinda aggravating. posted_image

Anywho, why do you care about that anyway?

The United States simply is not a competetive manufacturer of consumer electronic goods. Especially lower end commodities like stereo gear simply is not made domestically at anything approaching a reasonable cost. This isn't a bad thing... just that low end production jobs are moving to where wages are lower. Don't believe everything you hear about this. Competitive companies, like Kicker for example, are in the 'information' export business... domesitcally *designed* products are then produced overseas for a fraction of the cost. In this sense, America is still exporting its most valuable commodity... our intelligence.

Besides, the farther you are away from a product the more money you make on it. Don't all the installers here complain about being underpaid? That's not a mistake, its a market reality.

If you're worried about the American manufacturing sector.. worry not... we still lead the planet by several orders of magnitude when we built complicated things. Like machine tools.

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"I'm finished!" - Daniel Plainview




Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: March 30, 2007 at 7:31 AM
The "girl" Is the one who travels to shows with me, the one who took 2nd place in her class at 2005 USACi world finals, The one who regularly attends shows and whoops up on most of the guys with her civic coupe.

I just prove a point when in accuracys are made

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2009 0-1000 Trunk WR 154.0DB 2009 1001+ Trunk WR
2007 USACI World Champion
2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place




Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: March 30, 2007 at 9:53 AM
sedate wrote:

Anywho, why do you care about that anyway?


jeffchilcott wrote:

I just prove a point when in accuracys are made


I'm sorry Jeff, I was refering back to the original poster with this comment. Very unclear by the structure my post.


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"I'm finished!" - Daniel Plainview




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: March 30, 2007 at 11:49 AM
Hey, sedate! Where ya been?!? Howz that EQ treating you... Made in USA!!! posted_image

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: loosingmymind
Date Posted: March 30, 2007 at 9:47 PM

haemphyst wrote:

Well, what it REALLY says is the Stillwater Designs is headquartered in Stillwater, OK. It does NOT say that it does not have MANUFACTURING FACILITIES in other places in the world.

Manufactured BY, yes. Headquartered IN, yes. But manufactured IN? Nope. Says nothing of the sort.

For it to MEAN that, it should say Designed by Stillwater Designs, and manufactured by Stillwater Designs IN Stillwater, OK.

Thank you for clarifying that for me haemphyst. I was really lost there for a min.posted_image I don't even sell kicker; but that didn't sound right!



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David Fancher
USACi World Finals 2006
4th Place SQ PRO 601+




Posted By: loosingmymind
Date Posted: March 30, 2007 at 9:49 PM
Was she at WF this year Jeff. She looks familiar?

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David Fancher
USACi World Finals 2006
4th Place SQ PRO 601+




Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: March 30, 2007 at 11:22 PM
she was with me at world finals this year

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2009 0-1000 Trunk WR 154.0DB 2009 1001+ Trunk WR
2007 USACI World Champion
2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place




Posted By: loosingmymind
Date Posted: March 31, 2007 at 12:21 AM
Thought so. Hooray for women in the Loudest sport on earth!! Showin some of theese guys how it's done!

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David Fancher
USACi World Finals 2006
4th Place SQ PRO 601+




Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: March 31, 2007 at 2:30 AM

sedate wrote:

I would do anything to have rolls and rolls of power wire like that just laying around.

I dunno about the girl though. They usually get kinda aggravating. posted_image

Anywho, why do you care about that anyway?

The United States simply is not a competetive manufacturer of consumer electronic goods. Especially lower end commodities like stereo gear simply is not made domestically at anything approaching a reasonable cost. This isn't a bad thing... just that low end production jobs are moving to where wages are lower. Don't believe everything you hear about this. Competitive companies, like Kicker for example, are in the 'information' export business... domesitcally *designed* products are then produced overseas for a fraction of the cost. In this sense, America is still exporting its most valuable commodity... our intelligence.

Besides, the farther you are away from a product the more money you make on it. Don't all the installers here complain about being underpaid? That's not a mistake, its a market reality.

If you're worried about the American manufacturing sector.. worry not... we still lead the planet by several orders of magnitude when we built complicated things. Like machine tools.

Very well put Sedate.  Manufacturing moving overseas due to lower wages hasn't lowered the unemployment rate in the US.  It just simply changed the type of jobs available.





Posted By: csnut18
Date Posted: March 31, 2007 at 2:38 PM
I will try and get a 5 channel us amps amp. Now if I could only find speakers manufactured here that would be wonderful. Also i deffinetly here your arguments that this exporting of manufacturing is not destroying the country or anything but if there are products made here why shouldn't I buy them? If ford and GM make good stuff why not make an extra effort to get something from here?




Posted By: csnut18
Date Posted: March 31, 2007 at 2:39 PM
I know cdt makes stuff here but they are sooooooo expensive. I can't afford that.




Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: March 31, 2007 at 3:25 PM

csnut18 wrote:

I will try and get a 5 channel us amps amp. Now if I could only find speakers manufactured here that would be wonderful. Also i deffinetly here your arguments that this exporting of manufacturing is not destroying the country or anything but if there are products made here why shouldn't I buy them? If ford and GM make good stuff why not make an extra effort to get something from here?

Who told you Ford and GM make good stuff? I think they might have been pulling your chain.

I'll tell you why you don't have to always buy american made products, for example some of the finest sounding speakers come from Europe. Morel, Dynaudio, Rainbow, Focal. These brands speak for them selves. CDT, pfff.



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Posted By: csnut18
Date Posted: March 31, 2007 at 3:59 PM
Also have you guys heard of elemental designs? I have been seeing a lot of them lately and they are completely manufactured in Iowa.




Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: April 03, 2007 at 11:56 AM

Are you sure I can't make you feel better about buying something imported?  Here, think of it this way:

You sound like you might be worried about the trade deficit with China or something.  First of all, when we buy things from China at a positive rate for China, that means China is accumulating dollars right?  What does China do with those dollars?  (Well, up until two weeks ago) It buys T-Bills from the US treasury WITH DOLLARS.  This means that they sell us actual stuff in return for dollars, then they give us the dollars back in exchange for our debt.  We get the money *back*

Now, as China acculumates American debt, what happens to American dollars?  Well, like any debtor, our credit rating... in terms of international exchange this is the dollar... goes down.  This is why the dollar has been declining in value in recent years.  We owe everyone money.

Forget not, this is a cycle, so as our dollar drops in value, the (this is very important) RELATIVE VALUE of the dollar vs. other currencies ALSO DROPS.  This means the amount of debt we have drops because the dollar is now worth LESS.  Now, as the dollar is worth LESS (this is also very important) our EXPORTS become CHEAPER and IMPORTS become more EXPENSIVE....

This means that American products will become less expensive abroad, and imports will be more expensive at home, which of course will stimulate domestic and international demand and then will stimulate the manufacturing sector, and thus save the jobs or whatever that you're worried about. 

So buy an imported stereo.  You'll be glad you did. posted_image



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"I'm finished!" - Daniel Plainview




Posted By: loosingmymind
Date Posted: April 03, 2007 at 11:15 PM

Sedate! You nailed it! Bravo! That is the best economic explination for the purchase of imported product that I have ever heard! I love Sony which falls under your expl. But you raise a good point. Ultimately the product will speak for it's self; but that was an awesome response for relieving the fear of of foreign product! One of the best responses i've read in a while! Thank you.

Dave 



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David Fancher
USACi World Finals 2006
4th Place SQ PRO 601+





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