directed sub upgrade 2 ground pounder?
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Topic: directed sub upgrade 2 ground pounder?
Posted By: mystereobangs
Subject: directed sub upgrade 2 ground pounder?
Date Posted: April 17, 2007 at 3:56 AM
right now I have the Directed d1200 amp and 2 directed sx subwoofers. https://www.drdetailshop.com/sx12d4.htm
I want to know what do you think of the set up and the subwoofers. Are those some good competition subwoofers?
And what subwoofers do you recommend that the subwoofer bass will shake every car at a stoplight? I need a earth pounder subwoofer that will shake cars for days. I don't want to really do that but I jut want you to get a feeling of the type of subwoofers i want. Any suggestions? ------------- Pioneer DEH-P6800MP
5.25 kicker fronts
6 1/2 kicker rear
Directed D1200 Amp
2 Directed Audio SX Subwoofers
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Posted By: zhalverson
Date Posted: April 17, 2007 at 2:55 PM
What you really need to do is define your goal. You mention competition subwoofers? Are you going to be competeing or is this for a daily driver? Do you want pure SPL (ground shaking loud as you put it) or to try to retain sound quality as well? I'll assume the former. Most people on this forum will correctly tell you that most subs can get quite loud given the correct ENCLOSURE. So you do not need to upgrade subwoofers necessarily but build the enclosure that optimizes them to your goal, that is for pure loudness, SQ, or some comprimise of the two. Think about it and get back to us... By the way include what kind of enclosure you currently have, as well as electrical system upgrades? And how do you like those licker speakers in your sig.?
Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: April 17, 2007 at 3:54 PM
zhalverson wrote:
What you really need to do is define your goal.
Haha.. I think he did. mystereobangs wrote:
what subwoofers do you recommend that the subwoofer bass will shake every car at a stoplight
Ahaha. That's hilarious. If that is what you really want, I think you should start by building a big ported box tuned real high.. like maybe 42~45hz or so. Believe it or not, the actual diaphram choice you make doesn't really make the difference you might think. Your enclosure and vehicle have alot more to do with this than you'd imagine. ------------- "I'm finished!" - Daniel Plainview
Posted By: tubbs04
Date Posted: April 17, 2007 at 4:14 PM
Those speakers should do the trick depending on the box and vehicle. Look into the specific volume needed for the speakers for a vented box and then find yourself a box builder that has a good rep. Its all money after that...
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Posted By: mystereobangs
Date Posted: April 17, 2007 at 4:15 PM
zhalverson wrote:
What you really need to do is define your goal. You mention competition subwoofers? Are you going to be competeing or is this for a daily driver? Do you want pure SPL (ground shaking loud as you put it) or to try to retain sound quality as well? I'll assume the former. Most people on this forum will correctly tell you that most subs can get quite loud given the correct ENCLOSURE. So you do not need to upgrade subwoofers necessarily but build the enclosure that optimizes them to your goal, that is for pure loudness, SQ, or some comprimise of the two. Think about it and get back to us...
By the way include what kind of enclosure you currently have, as well as electrical system upgrades? And how do you like those licker speakers in your sig.?
Okay well this is the box I have.. Its kind of small 3.0 cubic feet https://www.bassslammer.com/images/prodCarpetBS212V_750.jpg
I have another box sitting at home , it's a little bigger. I think its like 3.25 or 3.50 cubic feet and it is slot vented on one side. Do you think I should use it?
And I hate those kicker speakers. The sound quality sucks..
I don't compete in competitions or nothing but I want it to sound like I do..I do want to comprimise the two for alot of spl and some sound quality. I did have the rockford p3 in that box and the bass slammed but there was no sound quality..
Oh and guess want. I was driving home from work yesterdau and I look at my volt meter on my cd deck and it dropped to like 11 volts and my VOLT BATTERY light came on and still is on.. What happen? Is my battery draining? ------------- Pioneer DEH-P6800MP
5.25 kicker fronts
6 1/2 kicker rear
Directed D1200 Amp
2 Directed Audio SX Subwoofers
Posted By: mystereobangs
Date Posted: April 17, 2007 at 4:35 PM
tubbs04 wrote:
Those speakers should do the trick depending on the box and vehicle. Look into the specific volume needed for the speakers for a vented box and then find yourself a box builder that has a good rep. Its all money after that...
I can't find the specs on the subwoofer. it is not listed anywhere on what size box it needs. ------------- Pioneer DEH-P6800MP
5.25 kicker fronts
6 1/2 kicker rear
Directed D1200 Amp
2 Directed Audio SX Subwoofers
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: April 17, 2007 at 4:35 PM
means you need to upgrade your electrical system...start by upgrading your BIG THREE and have your battery load tested.
Posted By: mystereobangs
Date Posted: April 17, 2007 at 4:44 PM
aznboi3644 wrote:
means you need to upgrade your electrical system...start by upgrading your BIG THREE and have your battery load tested.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to upgrade big 3 for 99 chevy monte carlo..my alternator is a little bit confusing. There s a boot over the wire the snaps on the amplifier..
Did anyone purchase the online car repair book thats on here? ------------- Pioneer DEH-P6800MP
5.25 kicker fronts
6 1/2 kicker rear
Directed D1200 Amp
2 Directed Audio SX Subwoofers
Posted By: mystereobangs
Date Posted: April 17, 2007 at 4:47 PM
tubbs04 wrote:
Those speakers should do the trick depending on the box and vehicle. Look into the specific volume needed for the speakers for a vented box and then find yourself a box builder that has a good rep. Its all money after that...
will this kenwood amp work with the subwoofers. It will be short of about 150 watts per subwoofer. https://www.sonicelectrnix.com/item_4351_Kenwood+KAC-9152D.html------------- Pioneer DEH-P6800MP
5.25 kicker fronts
6 1/2 kicker rear
Directed D1200 Amp
2 Directed Audio SX Subwoofers
Posted By: jmelton86
Date Posted: April 17, 2007 at 6:01 PM
| Model | SX12D4 | | Size | 12" | | Magnet | 109 oz. | | Power Handling | 600 watts RMS | | Power Peak | 1200 Peak | | Impedance | Dual 4 Ohm V.C. | | Freq. Resp. | 25Hz - 2500Hz | | Efficiency | 84dB (1W/1M) | | Fs/Hz | 32 | | Re | 7.8 | | Qts | 0.62 | | Vas/liter/ft3 | 32.07/1.13 | | Xmax | 16mm | | Depth | 7 3/8" |
Here you go. ------------- 2013 Kia Rio -90a alternator
DDX470HD GTO14001 GTO1014D (x3)
Big3 in 1/0G
1/0G to GTO14001
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: April 17, 2007 at 10:55 PM
here is the stickey for upgrading your big three
that boot/cover can be folded over to expose the bolt
Posted By: tubbs04
Date Posted: April 19, 2007 at 9:43 AM
mystereobangs wrote:
tubbs04 wrote:
Those speakers should do the trick depending on the box and vehicle. Look into the specific volume needed for the speakers for a vented box and then find yourself a box builder that has a good rep. Its all money after that...
will this kenwood amp work with the subwoofers. It will be short of about 150 watts per subwoofer.https://www.sonicelectrnix.com/item_4351_Kenwood+KAC-9152D.html
That amp will make them move but I personally would put something a little bigger on them. check out an XT.2000D by USAmps. ------------- ...don't crush the weasel...
Posted By: tubbs04
Date Posted: April 19, 2007 at 6:23 PM
....maybe even the XT.4000D... ------------- ...don't crush the weasel...
Posted By: mystereobangs
Date Posted: April 19, 2007 at 8:25 PM
that would be too loud.. My system is already the loudest .. I dont think I could take any more. and I'm only doing 300 watts per speaker with 2 subs wired in 1 ohm
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Pioneer DEH-P6800MP
5.25 kicker fronts
6 1/2 kicker rear
Directed D1200 Amp
2 Directed Audio SX Subwoofers
Posted By: zhalverson
Date Posted: April 19, 2007 at 8:29 PM
mystereobangs wrote:
that would be too loud.. My system is already the loudest .. I dont think I could take any more. and I'm only doing 300 watts per speaker with 2 subs wired in 1 ohm
If it's "the loudest" then why are you trying to upgrade in the first place? Not making much sense here dude.
Posted By: mystereobangs
Date Posted: April 19, 2007 at 8:56 PM
I want to upgrade to have a cleaner sound. I bought and hooked up the kenwood amp I was asking about earlier and the sound is much better and cleaner. sweet music to my ears!
The d1200 amp is signal to noise of about 69 I think..
The kenwood amp is 98 signal to noise...
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Pioneer DEH-P6800MP
5.25 kicker fronts
6 1/2 kicker rear
Directed D1200 Amp
2 Directed Audio SX Subwoofers
Posted By: zhalverson
Date Posted: April 19, 2007 at 9:01 PM
Well ok but you started this thread with what subwoofers do I need to "shake cars for days" to wanting to upgrade to have cleaner sound and your subs are plenty loud enough?? Well I don't get it but if you're happy that's what counts.
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