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Topic: nerts speakers?

Posted By: pmezo
Subject: nerts speakers?
Date Posted: April 21, 2007 at 4:39 PM

Has anyone heard of this brand of speakers?  I went to my local car audio store a hnd they sound great but I cant find anything about them when I search.  The guy told me that they're european competition speakers.  He said he goes to some show in Vegas every year and he picked them up there.  They had them on display and I loved them.  Anyone have idea knowledge of this company?




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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 21, 2007 at 5:38 PM

Never heard of that.  You sure they didn't say "Hertz"?  If you can confirm the brand name and post here I'd be interested.

If you liked the way they sound and if the price is good for you then why not, go for it.  Hertz is a decent Italian brand, by the way, owned by Elettromedia  the same company as Audisson.



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Posted By: pmezo
Date Posted: April 21, 2007 at 8:11 PM
You know what... I bet anything that it was Hertz and I just wrote it down.  The store had a lot of Audison amps and that's what they recommend that I use with the speakers.  Is is good stuff? 




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 21, 2007 at 9:12 PM
Yes, Audison is outstanding.  Hertz is very good as well.

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Posted By: pmezo
Date Posted: April 21, 2007 at 11:15 PM

Thanks!!  They sounded great in the store - I just wanted to make sure before I went and bought them since I never heard the name before.  Now I'm going to get them installed in my two week old G35 next week.  Can't wait!

Here's what my setup is going to be incase anyone was interested.  Let me know how you guys think this is going to sound.

- Solobaric 10'' L7 sub with Zenclosure custom G35 enclosure.
- Memphis16-MC1000D amp for the Solobaric
- Hertz EV165 6.5" Components for the fronts
- Hertz ECX165 6.5" two way coaxial for the rears
- Audison LRx 4 channel amp for fronts and rears
- Stock face with OEM integration  (I like the clean look of the stock radio)

Sooo what do you guys think?  One thing that I'm worried about is the bass - Is one  solobaric going to be enough?  I know this is a very hard question to answer because everyone has different opinions on bass levels, but let me know what you think if it was you.  I'm not looking for head exploding bass, but i definitely want  to feel the music too.  Thanks!





Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: April 22, 2007 at 12:08 AM

pmezo] wrote:

ne thing that I'm worried about is the bass - Is one  solobaric going to be enough?

My take on this... if your worried about it I'd go with something with a bit more bottom end.  Your top end looks awfully nice.. while the single solobaric would be great from a sound quality point of view.. I don't think it would really thump.  This is sort of a personal issue.. like you say everyone has different opinions on bass levels. 

I would be much happier going with *alot* more cone area.. especially paired to a giant memphis amp like that.



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Posted By: pmezo
Date Posted: April 22, 2007 at 12:48 AM

I actually already have the sub and the amp.  I actually have two solobarics but im only using one.  The problem is my extremely small trunk... G35's have barely any trunk room at all.  So what I did was I bought this..

https://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Infiniti-G35-G-35-Sub-Subwoofer-Box-Enclosure-Square_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38647QQihZ019QQitemZ290106066303QQtcZphoto

These are custom built boxes built just for g35 coupes.  I talked to the guy who builds/sold it to me and he said that he can only make an enclosure that can fit one solobaric.  There just isnt enough room in the trunk for two.

So since I already had the the two solobarics - i decided to buy the above enclosure and just use one of my solobarics.  I've heard really good things about the solobarics so im really hoping that one with a good memphis amp will be enough because im looking for some thumping.  Nothing too crazy, but definitely a good thump to it.





Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: April 22, 2007 at 4:16 AM

Huh.  Those are really slick looking enclosures dude I'll give 'em that.

I mean I hope you're happy with it.  My reservation really stems from the fact that a single 10 in a sealed off trunk would ... even in the best of circumstances ... leave me a bit cold.  Still, you're in the best of circumstances.  Cars like that usually have lotsa sound deadening and you are using an enormous amplfier.

Best of luck to ya... I hope it works out.  Post back after you drop it in .. I'd be interested to know if you're happy or not.. u know, just you're subjective experience. 



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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 22, 2007 at 10:20 AM
Looks like a great sounding system to me, with the exception of the stock HU.  I understand wanting to keep it since this is a new car, but it is absolutely your weak link.  With that kind of amplifier power you are likely looking at needing a high-output alternator and at LEAST a Big-3 upgrade.  Enjoy!

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Posted By: pmezo
Date Posted: April 22, 2007 at 10:43 AM

yeah i know the head unit is a weak spot too, but it's i'm going to keep it stock for now.  The way that the radio is set up in my car, I cant just pull it out and put another one in.  I'd have to change around the whole set up from the way the car is set up.  It's kind of hard to explain but i hope you get what i'm getting at.  I'd take pictures but i dont have a digital camera.

Do you think that stock radio is going to have much of a negative effect? 





Posted By: pmezo
Date Posted: April 22, 2007 at 1:56 PM

Also, I still have a another solobaric 10'' L7 that i can use, but I can't use with my custom box.  I'd have to use it with a regular box that is much bigger and wont give me any trunk space.  G35's have tiny trunks.

Do you think it would be worth it to use both subs and will my one be good enough.  Will there really be a huge difference between one and two l7's?  Ive never heard them, but from my understanding, L7's pound pretty hard.  That's why I'm hoping one will be enoughj. 





Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: April 22, 2007 at 2:40 PM

pmezo] wrote:

he way that the radio is set up in my car, I cant just pull it out and put another one in.

Yea new cars are really tough like this.  Last time I bought a car I turned down several newer models, literally, because the stereo would be too hard to get at.  I couldn't imagine pulling the stock HU out of an Infinity.

The OEM integration that is performed is going to crucial in negating that stock HU.  Are they using something like JL's cleansweep or what?

pmezo] wrote:

ill there really be a huge difference between one and two l7's?  Ive never heard them, but from my understanding, L7's pound pretty hard. 

Strictly speaking, adding a second operating diaphram should net from 3 ~ 6db (I'm not sure how they are wired to the Memphis amp, this is a critical part of the question for a more concrete answer.)  This is a pretty sizable gain.

I suppose, comparitively, L7's are a pretty high end woofer, but physically speaking, it only has so much cone area.  The remainder of your planned system looks absolutley awesome, but like I said, for great, pounding car stereo bass... a single 10.. for me.. wouldn't cut it.  Not an L7, not a 10W7... there isn' t a 10 made that would make me happy mated to a top end like the one in your car.

Again however, my tastes run a bit adolescent in this department so I still think you might be quite happy and impressed with it.

pmezo] wrote:

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Also, I still have a another solobaric 10'' L7 that i can use, but I can't use with my custom box.  I'd have to use it with a regular box that is much bigger and wont give me any trunk space. 


This is the trade off... I've *never* had *any* trunk space...



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Posted By: pmezo
Date Posted: April 22, 2007 at 3:06 PM

sedate wrote:

The OEM integration that is performed is going to crucial in negating that stock HU.  Are they using something like JL's cleansweep or what?

Yeah, that is exactly what they're using.  Also, just like you said, I'm sure it is very difficult to replace the stock headunit in this car, so this is pretty much the best I can do at the moment.  I'm hoping it does the job because I haven't seen or heard many good car stereos where the radio isnt replaced.  The guy told me I can expect to get about 90% of what i'd get if I changed the radio from the cleansweep.  Is this accurate?

sedate wrote:

Strictly speaking, adding a second operating diaphram should net from 3 ~ 6db (I'm not sure how they are wired to the Memphis amp, this is a critical part of the question for a more concrete answer.)  This is a pretty sizable gain.

I suppose, comparitively, L7's are a pretty high end woofer, but physically speaking, it only has so much cone area.  The remainder of your planned system looks absolutley awesome, but like I said, for great, pounding car stereo bass... a single 10.. for me.. wouldn't cut it.  Not an L7, not a 10W7... there isn' t a 10 made that would make me happy mated to a top end like the one in your car.

Again however, my tastes run a bit adolescent in this department so I still think you might be quite happy and impressed with it.


Like I said before, I'm going to go with my custom box ( https://stores.ebay.com/ZEnclosures_G35-ENCLOSURES_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ5414997QQftidZ2QQtZkm ) and my one solobaric to start and keep most of my trunk with a great looking enclosure.  If it's not enough bass, i'll just have to put in my much larger enclosure and have the two solobarics running off that Memphis Amp.  I'll make an attempt with one and if it's not enough, I'll have to just mix and match.  From what I've heard about solobarics, two should be more than enough for what I want.

Now one more question I have is actually about the memphis amp.  Everyone has been saying that it is a powerful amp, but will it be too much for one solobaric if the gain is turned down?  It was originally meant for the two 4 ohm L7's, but now it's just going to be for one.  Will it be too much for one?  Would it be perfect for two? 

BTW - Thanks a lot for the help everyone!





Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: April 22, 2007 at 3:20 PM

pmezo] wrote:

The guy told me I can expect to get about 90% of what i'd get if I changed the radio from the cleansweep.  Is this accurate?

I would imagine so.  I've never actually heard an OEM job like this with a cleansweep installed, but if it is set properly, I would think you're end result will be excellent.  JL Audio makes some of the best products in this industry and I've heard great things about that little box.

pmezo] wrote:

ow one more question I have is actually about the memphis amp.  Everyone has been saying that it is a powerful amp, but will it be too much for one solobaric if the gain is turned down?  It was originally meant for the two 4 ohm L7's, but now it's just going to be for one.  Will it be too much for one?  Would it be perfect for two? 

Actually it will run the same amount of power to one sub that it will to two.  Running a single sub off that amp will show the amp a 4-ohm load.. for a net of ~300watts.  Running two off that amp will show the amp a 2-ohm load, for a net of ~600watts.  Eitherway, the amp is a good match for the woofers.



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Posted By: pmezo
Date Posted: April 22, 2007 at 3:28 PM

Nice, sounds good.  I'll update everyone when I get them installed. 

Cant wait.





Posted By: pmezo
Date Posted: April 28, 2007 at 2:42 PM

Ok, so I put everything in and it sounded good, but not great.  There just wasnt enough bass with only one solobaric.  I just put the other solobaric and WOW what a difference.  I feel like my head is going to explode... i love it.  Sedate you were right... i needed that that sub in there.  Sounds great now!  now i just need to stop the trunk from rattling like it is now.





Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: April 29, 2007 at 10:03 AM

pmezo] wrote:

here just wasnt enough bass with only one solobaric.  I just put the other solobaric and WOW what a difference.  I feel like my head is going to explode... i love it.  Sedate you were right... i needed that that sub in there.  Sounds great now! 

Hehe.  Glad it worked out for ya.
Pairs of woofers just have this *certain spank*

pmezo] wrote:

ow i just need to stop the trunk from rattling like it is now.

Good luck man.  All kinds of stuff for this ...from expanding foam sealant to more exotic solutions like Dynamat and what-not.  Try bolting or strapping your back dash to your car frame too... this usually is a source of *huge* rattles.



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Posted By: 3rd gen
Date Posted: April 29, 2007 at 10:47 AM
I don't know if you have found this out or not, but if you can get the JDM dash from a G35 (Skyline 3.5GT over there)it separates the HVAC and audio separate. There was a G35 in CA&E a couple months ago that did this conversion and then put in an AVIC-Z1.

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CA&E]A wrote:

Dash Of This... The heart of the G35's audio system is the head unit, a Pioneer AVIC-Z1 installed in the center console of the dashboard. "Installed" makes it all sound so easy, but ask any G35 owner with a yen for audio about that and he'll assure you it's anything but. Infiniti inconveniently combines the G35's factory head unit with the A/C unit, making for one big mess if you want to do anything other than roll with what they gave you. The solution lies in a replacement JDM dash, which thankfully keeps audio and climate control separate (it's not chocolate and peanut butter, people)


Article: https://www.caraudiomag.com/features/0612_cae_2003_infiniti_g35/index.html





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