95 explorer cd changer wiring diagram

hello all.  i have a 95 explorer and need the wiring diagram for the cd changer.  i've tried tons of searching and posting in an explorer's forum, but still can't find it.  the changer is a CLARION F57F-18C849-DC.

the reason i need it is because i want to hook up an i-pod to the changer's output.  i'm going to put an 80 minute silent cd in the changer to trick the radio into thinking the cd is playing.  there was an exact how-to at https://www.ipodincar.net/guideExplorer.php but the page is gone now.

thank you all for helping

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-- Mahlmann --

bump for the late night folks...

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-- Mahlmann --

I am unsure why you are intent upon keeping the changer, as there a number of after market adapter pieces that will work with your car. Peripheral, usa spec, soundgate and others make ipod solutions for your car.

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all correct, but i would rather do it myself and would prefer not spending money on it...  i have everything i need already

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-- Mahlmann --

Radio Shack sells an amplified speaker for 15 dollars. You will also need to buy an 1/8 inch mono plug and solder wires to it for the input. Take your changer apart enough to get to the connections of the socket where the plug from your radio plugs into it. With the plug you made up, ground the ground wire to the chassis of the changer then with a cd playing and the volume up slightly on the amplified speaker begin probing the connections with the signal wire of the amplified speaker there will be 2 connections that have audio one will be left and the other right.   Good Luck I check here daily if you have any other questions.

that sounds great, i'm definately capable of doing that...  once i find the left and right, what would i connect for the negative part of the ipot cable output?  i.e.  i'm thinking i want to find L+ and L-, and R+ and R-  ((i'm using a 1/8 inch audio jack to RCA cable, i was going to splice the RCA ends hence the + and - on L and R))...  what i believe you're saying is i'd find only L+ and R+...  correct?

*thanks for the reply

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-- Mahlmann --

for the sake of posting related info here is a digram of the 1/8 stereo jack to RCA cable... https://www.mediacollege.com/audio/connection/jack-stereo-rca-2.html

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-- Mahlmann --

Chances are the negative for the audio is connected directly to ground. You will need to connect the shield of your adapter to ground and then the center conductors to the signal wires you find with the speaker.

that makes sence...  i've been poking around doing a whole lot of guessing and testing with negatives and it seems as if that's the correct way.  it's been 2 1/2 hours doing this and i'm getting tired so tomorow i'll finish up everything hopefully.  i can't get my silent cd to play in the changer thou, so that's a set back.  i think it's my burner b/c i have 60 minutes of silence (it works, i tried it in itunes and winamp) but the changer doesn't like it.  i'll also do a brief write-up on this mod when i'm done for the rest of the community. 

stay tuned...

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-- Mahlmann --

Once you figure out which wire is signal, you can cut it and use a switch to switch between changer and I-Pod the silent CD is really not necessary.

oh wow, i like that idea a lot...  i had a 13 hour day at work today so i didn't have a chance to play yet tonight...  if not then definately tomorow...  thanks again

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-- Mahlmann --

update:  i hooked up the L+ and R+ from the ipod to the L+ and R+ going to the radio (disconnected changer's output) and connecting the L- and R- from the ipod to a ground in the area.  the radio would not turn on the changer and i got an error saying "NO DJ".  so i then reconnected the changer's output in-line with the ipod's output.  the changer worked and i could hear the CD but i could not hear the ipod.  one thing i noticed was that with the makeshift ipod ground connected the CD track would restart every ~20 seconds and i lost control of the previous and next track button on the radio.  with the ipod ground disconnected that would not happen.  any input anyone?

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-- Mahlmann --

Go back and reread my first post. You are supposed to be doing all this at the inside of the changer. If the radio does not see a changer it will not switch to it. I thought we were supposed to take the changer apart and finding changer signal there. Then we were to interupt changer signal and send I-pod signal there. If we do it there the radio still thinks it has a changer connected and it will switch to it. It is not an AUX in on the back of the radio. It actually communicates with the changer and it knows when there is no changer.

aaahhhhhh...  i see what you're saying...  but isn't it the same signal inside the changer and outside?  like, how far "in" the changer should i go?  when i tested for the left and right channels comming out of the changer i tried right where the wiring harness connector is soldered to the circuit board.

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-- Mahlmann --

You can do it the same way just inside the changer.

Just like you did on the radio. Changer is really easy to take apart just be careful not to lose the springs that mount the changer to the frame.

i understand what you're saying but i believe you don't understand where i tapped into the wires...  i did it about 2 inches after the changer, i already took the changer apart (that's how i found the signal)...  weather i tap into the signal 2 inches after the changer or directly inside the changer it is still the same signal and it should produce the same results...  correct?

the more i think about it i'm sceptical about the grounds (or the L- and R-)

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-- Mahlmann --