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kicker 650.4 problems

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Printed Date: July 09, 2025 at 7:50 PM


Topic: kicker 650.4 problems

Posted By: dark3n666
Subject: kicker 650.4 problems
Date Posted: September 10, 2007 at 9:06 AM

hey, i have a kicker 650.4 amp bridged into 2 channel powering duel kicker comp vr duel voice coils. problem is that when i turn the volume up not even loud, the amp chokes, its lights dim and just sounds crappy. i hooked up my splits and rears to it to see if the same problem occured, and it did again at the higher volumes. when i say higher volumes, its not to loud. ive sent the amp away 5 times now and kicker keep sending it back "repaired" but its always the same problem. am i doing something wrong? is there something i should try out? my other amp powering my normal speaker is 4x130watt rms and it doesnt choke at all, runs fine all the way, and i also have a ultima dry cell batery so power shouldnt be an issue. im really at wits end with it aye



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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: September 10, 2007 at 1:01 PM
I'm going to have to make some assumptions here, as you left out some of the most important information... posted_image

Well, dual (vs. duel) voice coils, wired in parallel will give you 4, 2, or one ohm, commonly. You didn't tell us which CVRs you have, so I am simply going to assume it is the most common version, the 4 ohm. Those two voice coils, wired in parallel is 2 ohms.

Now, I know what you're gonna say - "The amp says it's 2 ohm stable". That may be true, but that is PER CHANNEL, and stereo mode. When you bridge into 2 ohms, the amp is actually "seeing" 1 ohm per channel. That amp ISN'T one ohm stable.

Possible solutions are:

1: Wire the voice coils in series, for an 8 ohm load, then bridge into THAT load, the amp will then see 4 ohms per channel.
2: Wire one voice coil to each channel of the amp, and forego the bridging altogether - 4 voice coils, 4 channels of amplifier.

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Posted By: dark3n666
Date Posted: September 10, 2007 at 7:23 PM
yeh man the they kicker CompVR 2 ohm sorry.
the thing that gets me though is i connected the amp up to the normal speakers, ie my splits and 2 ways, per channel, and it still "staggered" or "choked" whereas my other amp, although a different brand, but same sort of power, runs fine. im probs goin to diotch the amp and buy a mono, but i still want it to work so i can sell it.





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