batcap good or bad?
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Topic: batcap good or bad?
Posted By: mustang_pumpin
Subject: batcap good or bad?
Date Posted: September 19, 2007 at 8:24 PM
I was just checkin out car stereo products websites and i came across this website https://www.batcap.net/ i was wondering if anyone has ever had one or if anyone has ever heard of it?!?!?!? Anyone have any comments about this product???
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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 12:20 AM
the small batcaps with like d cell batteries are worthless.
the batcap 800 is the smallest one i would even think of buying
Posted By: mustang_pumpin
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 5:19 AM
Would it be worth it to get one or is there something better that would prevent voltage dropage?
Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 11:48 AM
mustang_pumpin wrote:
Would it be worth it to get one or is there something better that would prevent voltage dropage?
Yes an alternator, bigger batteries will only sotre the power for maybe slightly longer. In the long run, you will need an alternaotr if your having serious voltage issues. there is only one thing that makes the power in your car, and that would be the alt ------------- 2009 0-1000 Trunk WR 154.0DB 2009 1001+ Trunk WR
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Posted By: mustang_pumpin
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 2:56 PM
jeffchilcott wrote:
mustang_pumpin wrote:
Would it be worth it to get one or is there something better that would prevent voltage dropage?
Yes an alternator, bigger batteries will only sotre the power for maybe slightly longer. In the long run, you will need an alternaotr if your having serious voltage issues. there is only one thing that makes the power in your car, and that would be the alt
well actually that was the first thing i did even before i installed my stereo system in my car was buy a bigger ALT. im not sure what the factory alt in my car is rated (2001 mustang 3.8L) but i got a new alt thats 240amp which was the biggest i could find!!!
Posted By: supradude
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 5:27 PM
You'll find most people on this forum don't care for any type of cap, myself included. At best they are a patch for a bigger problem. If you have a 240 amp alternator and are having problems, what amps are you using?
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Posted By: jmelton86
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 5:43 PM
With your alt upgrade, did you do the Big3 as well? I've heard HO alt manufacturers won't warantee the alt if this isn't done.
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DDX470HD GTO14001 GTO1014D (x3)
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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 6:57 PM
Well if you already have an upgraded alt than an extra battery won't hurt
Posted By: mustang_pumpin
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 7:15 PM
supradude wrote:
You'll find most people on this forum don't care for any type of cap, myself included. At best they are a patch for a bigger problem. If you have a 240 amp alternator and are having problems, what amps are you using?
This is what i have installed: 4 x Phoenix Gold Octane-R series R15.0:1 class D Monoblock amplifiers with 1500w output each!!!! 2 x 12" Cerwin Vega Stroker 2ohm DVC subwoofers with a 2000w RMS and 4000w peak power handling!!!
Posted By: mustang_pumpin
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 7:16 PM
jmelton86 wrote:
With your alt upgrade, did you do the Big3 as well? I've heard HO alt manufacturers won't warantee the alt if this isn't done.
Yes i did the Big3 when installing the upgraded alternator!!
Posted By: jmelton86
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 7:17 PM
That alternator surely isn't going to keep all those amps powered, as well as keeping the battery(s) charged and the car running.
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2013 Kia Rio -90a alternator
DDX470HD GTO14001 GTO1014D (x3)
Big3 in 1/0G
1/0G to GTO14001
Posted By: mustang_pumpin
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 8:02 PM
jmelton86 wrote:
That alternator surely isn't going to keep all those amps powered, as well as keeping the battery(s) charged and the car running.
Which is exactly the reason im looking into installin something such as a Batcap or something similar that will supply the amps with the power they need!!
Posted By: jmelton86
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 8:07 PM
I doubt it will help as it's another load on the alternator. ------------- 2013 Kia Rio -90a alternator
DDX470HD GTO14001 GTO1014D (x3)
Big3 in 1/0G
1/0G to GTO14001
Posted By: mustang_pumpin
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 8:16 PM
Well could you or anyone else suggest something that would help??? theres gotta be something i can install or something i can do..... if people can install 8 x 15" woofers and whatever else they have in a vehicle such an SUV or whatever like what you see in car audio magazines and all..... then there is a solution for my needs somewhere with something!!!!
Posted By: jmelton86
Date Posted: September 20, 2007 at 9:31 PM
You'll need more alternator power.
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2013 Kia Rio -90a alternator
DDX470HD GTO14001 GTO1014D (x3)
Big3 in 1/0G
1/0G to GTO14001
Posted By: throwback2332
Date Posted: September 21, 2007 at 3:21 AM
What your running batcap will be better, save room, and last longer.
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Posted By: mustang_pumpin
Date Posted: September 21, 2007 at 8:17 AM
throwback2332 wrote:
What your running batcap will be better, save room, and last longer.
So if i was to get one and install it... you think it would help out more then it would not help??
Posted By: mustang_pumpin
Date Posted: September 21, 2007 at 8:19 AM
jmelton86 wrote:
You'll need more alternator power.
and just how am i suppose to get more alternator power?? I installed the highest amp alternator that i could find!!!
Posted By: mustang_pumpin
Date Posted: September 21, 2007 at 8:22 AM
I just wanna take a min and thank you guys for all your opinions and everything.... every word of advice is very helpful in many ways!!! so THANKS again guys!!! 
Posted By: supradude
Date Posted: September 22, 2007 at 10:32 AM
You might have to add on a second alternator.
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Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: September 22, 2007 at 11:14 AM
Call this number (615)287-7991 tell him what you have amps and vehicle wise, see what he can build. You need a bigger alt. then look into these weapons. We have installed quite a few of them without issue to date.
Posted By: digdug18
Date Posted: September 26, 2007 at 8:27 PM
I do have a suggestion, but you might not like it.....Phoenix Gold is a Good company, but they use an older design for their amp technology. Instead of spending more money on your alt and a batcap and all that, why not switch to a more efficient amp? or actually amps. Im thinking Alpine PDX1000.1, or perhaps another digital amp, I believe the new rockford fosgate are digital as well, their more like 85%.... So you'd be using less actual amps to produce the same or more power.....Just my $.02 Andrew
Posted By: mustang_pumpin
Date Posted: September 29, 2007 at 2:25 AM
Well I have what i have and I can't really afford to go out and get anything like a good high quality Rockford Amp or similar!!! So until i can afford a Rockford im gonna have to just do what i can for now!! If i was to buy say the Kinetik HC2400 power cell... would that help at all in any way or just a waste of money?
Posted By: digdug18
Date Posted: October 01, 2007 at 3:58 PM
Its $250 for one of those, why, I'm giving you a solution. Use what you want, but dont bitch that you headlights are dimming, me and everyone else have sound ideas that you are turning down for one reason or another, mostly because your too cheap to buy higher quality products... If you wanna play with the big boys you have to spend the money. A $150-$250 battery upgrade wont do anything to fix your problem, but I'm willing to bet that you will buy it anyway, the bitch that your still having the same problem...... Bottom line, either add another alt to your current system or a digital amplifier that would be more efficient and thus would draw less power.
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: October 01, 2007 at 4:16 PM
Easy on the attitudes people. Please and thank you.
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Posted By: mustang_pumpin
Date Posted: October 01, 2007 at 8:22 PM
digdug18 wrote:
Its $250 for one of those, why, I'm giving you a solution. Use what you want, but dont bitch that you headlights are dimming, me and everyone else have sound ideas that you are turning down for one reason or another, mostly because your too cheap to buy higher quality products... If you wanna play with the big boys you have to spend the money. A $150-$250 battery upgrade wont do anything to fix your problem, but I'm willing to bet that you will buy it anyway, the bitch that your still having the same problem...... Bottom line, either add another alt to your current system or a digital amplifier that would be more efficient and thus would draw less power.
Keep your rude unwanted comments to yourself.... I am asking for anyones thoughts and comments about this to help improve my knowledge.... i didnt ask for any rude remarks from someone that thinks they know it all!!!!! I dont recall me doing any bitching at all about anything.... I am simply asking questions, there is a difference between the 2 for your info since u seem to not know this!! For your information PAL... what i have is among the higher quality products on the market!!! I just put over $2000 into my system and power charging system upgrades.... so just keep your mouth shut when u know nothing!!!!
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: October 01, 2007 at 9:19 PM
When you do this it seems like you are yelling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is this how you want to percieved?????????????? To the other culprit. If someone doesn't agree with your opinion, it is just that, an opinion. This sight does a great service to this industry, leave all attitudes at the door. Thank you. ------------- There is no such thing as free installation!
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