which eclipse deck?
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Topic: which eclipse deck?
Posted By: tedmond
Subject: which eclipse deck?
Date Posted: October 20, 2007 at 9:22 AM
hi everyone, Im deciding on a new deck for my car. Currenly, I have a a panasonic deck and planning to pick up an eclipse. Which is the better one? i have a deal on both so i just want to get some feedback on what is better. Eclipse CD5000 or Eclipse CD8445
I do have an orion XTR sub *old school* and a clarion amp. please help me decide. thanks to one and all.
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Posted By: tubbs04
Date Posted: October 20, 2007 at 12:48 PM
CD8445 would be my choice.. ------------- ...don't crush the weasel...
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: October 20, 2007 at 2:24 PM
Well the CD5000 has 5V pre outs and the CD8445 has 8V pre outs, if the amp to be used us ultra old school meaning it only takes up to a 2V input then you will have to really watch it with the 8V input, you gain will have to be pretty much all the way low.
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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: October 20, 2007 at 4:09 PM
only my sub is old school, the amp was recently bought i beleive an 06 model thanks!
Posted By: ya boy mike
Date Posted: October 20, 2007 at 11:03 PM
The CD5000 has 8V preouts
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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: October 20, 2007 at 11:25 PM
ya boy mike wrote:
The CD5000 has 8V preouts
No it doesn't, the only one that does is the CD7100. ------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: ya boy mike
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 11:32 PM
The CD7100 is the only one in this years line up to offer 8V preouts, last year the CD5000 had 8V preouts https://www.eclipse-web.com/download/pdf/06cata-150.pdf check page 18 ------------- It Hz
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: October 22, 2007 at 1:38 AM
Preout voltage should be one of the last things you base your purchase decision on.
Posted By: tubbs04
Date Posted: October 22, 2007 at 8:15 AM
Steven Kephart wrote:
Preout voltage should be one of the last things you base your purchase decision on.
Why is this? ------------- ...don't crush the weasel...
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: October 22, 2007 at 8:56 PM
IMO high pre-out voltage isn't an important feature. The claimed benifits are only applicable in poorly installed systems that are susceptible to noise. And all it does is cause confusion for those who don't know how to set gains properly, causing increased distortion and possibly damage to equipment. Have you ever noticed how there isn't a gain control on your home receiver when you hook up a DVD player? That's because all the voltages are standardized. The results are fewer problems and surprisingly no noise issues.
Posted By: tubbs04
Date Posted: October 24, 2007 at 8:29 AM
Steven Kephart wrote:
IMO high pre-out voltage isn't an important feature. The claimed benifits are only applicable in poorly installed systems that are susceptible to noise. And all it does is cause confusion for those who don't know how to set gains properly, causing increased distortion and possibly damage to equipment. Have you ever noticed how there isn't a gain control on your home receiver when you hook up a DVD player? That's because all the voltages are standardized. The results are fewer problems and surprisingly no noise issues.
What do you personally look for in a hu then? I've got a cd8443 and I wouldn't trade it for the world, it's been and still is a wonderful unit... still trying to learn how to use it.. hahaha ------------- ...don't crush the weasel...
Posted By: smgreen20
Date Posted: October 25, 2007 at 10:44 PM
It's a typo. Even though on page 18 it displays the 5V and 8V above the HU and in the descriptions below the HU. In person, look at the HUs. It's silk screened right on the face plate of the HU. The 7000 is 8V and the 5000 is 5V. If you're in the boat I'm in, then you'll need the 8V. I run a Phoenix Gold ZPA0.3 and a ZPA0.5 which require an 8V signal for optimum performance. That's why I got the CD8455. You'll want to look at the impeadance of the RCA outs on the HU. That's where the secret lies. The lower the better.
Posted By: smgreen20
Date Posted: October 25, 2007 at 10:49 PM
My bad. As I look closer at the HU on pg 18 I can barely see the 8V on the 5000. Maybe it's the 7100 that is 8V. I just wanted to correct my statement.
Posted By: ya boy mike
Date Posted: October 25, 2007 at 11:00 PM
Yeah the 7100 has 8V while the 7000 had 5V
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Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: October 26, 2007 at 10:21 AM
tubbs04 wrote:
Steven Kephart wrote:
IMO high pre-out voltage isn't an important feature. The claimed benifits are only applicable in poorly installed systems that are susceptible to noise. And all it does is cause confusion for those who don't know how to set gains properly, causing increased distortion and possibly damage to equipment. Have you ever noticed how there isn't a gain control on your home receiver when you hook up a DVD player? That's because all the voltages are standardized. The results are fewer problems and surprisingly no noise issues.
What do you personally look for in a hu then? I've got a cd8443 and I wouldn't trade it for the world, it's been and still is a wonderful unit... still trying to learn how to use it.. hahaha
Brand reputation Subwoofer output with volume control I despise the sound of the head units amplifiers, so one with no built in amplification is a plus Low output impedance and a good set of DAC's Ergonomic controls. I prefer Eclipse's old dual knob design over the new joystick style. I really like the old thumber remote on my Sony deck. I can control my stereo by touch. Features I will use regularly. I like the idea of a built in hard drive and would like to see it on more decks. Or I would like to see more companies get into an add-on hard drive setup. I really like the USB inputs on newer decks to use thumb drives or give the option of adding an outboard computer hard drive. I also like built in bluetooth.
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