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Topic: car wont start?

Posted By: 04crf450
Subject: car wont start?
Date Posted: October 29, 2007 at 2:13 AM

Hey guys im in the process of taking out my system in my truck. Well i took out the three batteries and all my amps and subs i have in my cab and when i went to start the car it wouldnt turn on. My volt meter was reading like 8. something volts and to turn it on i have to have it jumped. Any suggestions on what it could be. My fuses by the battery under the hood looked fine. The alt is fine as well it idles at like 13.7 volts. thanks.



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Posted By: soundman707
Date Posted: October 29, 2007 at 3:25 AM
maybe your under-hood battery is bad?




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: October 29, 2007 at 6:56 AM
soundman707 wrote:

maybe your under-hood battery is bad?

...and when it was parallelled with two OTHER battereis, it was masked. Replace your underhood battery, and I can almost guarantee that your issues will end.

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 29, 2007 at 8:00 AM
I agree with haephyst, you have a bad battery. The at rest voltage of the battery is suppose to be between 11.5 - 13.v any lower and the vehicle will have problems starting it at all.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: 04crf450
Date Posted: October 29, 2007 at 5:18 PM
Hey guys i disconnected the batt under the hood and it read 12.7 volts or so and i checked the alt voltage, the fuses and everything seems fine. I even bought a batt charger slash starter and it charged the battery to 14 volts and it still wouldnt turn over. I checked my anl fuses and the ones in the ones in the box under my hood.




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: October 29, 2007 at 5:43 PM
You cant accurately tell the charge of a battery, or what it's state of life is by reading the voltage with a meter. A meter adds NO load to the battery to drag it down, whereas your starter will try to put a load of up to several HUNDRED amps on it. If the battery is sulfated, it will read a full voltage when you think it is "charged" but the battery will still be dead, and will be manifested as such by NOT CRANKING THE STARTER. Sound familiar? Also, stop chasing the fuses. If the car runs perfectly, other than needing a jump-start, then fuses are NOT the issue.

I'm telling you, replace the battery, that's going to fix your issue.

To test the theory, take one of the OTHER batteries, the ones you just removed, and install it in place of the underhood battery. Ten to one, it'll work. Then, once you do that, and the engine starts, take the presently-underhood battery to your nearest battery or autoparts shop, and have it load tested. It'll be bad.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: 04crf450
Date Posted: October 31, 2007 at 12:43 AM
I put in a another one of batteries and still no luck. When i turn the key over it doesnt make a sound or show any intention to start up. What else could it be




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: October 31, 2007 at 8:32 AM
Could be any number of issues with your starter.  Sounds like time for a tow to the shop.

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Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: October 31, 2007 at 8:41 AM
There are alot of variables, Ditto on taking it in to a shop.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 31, 2007 at 8:42 AM
Make, model and year of the vehicle please.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: October 31, 2007 at 8:45 AM
But it will still continue to start, with a jump?

This sounds to me like the OEM ground has come disconnected from the chassis somewhere, if you are jumping the car correctly, by using the positive battery terminal, and a chassis ground. If you are jumping the car by connecting both terminals of the battery, to both terminals of the other car's battery... Then I got nothin', beyond my already attempted fixes.

You can test this theory by connecting a jumper cable from the negative battery post and the chassis, effectively "repairing", "replacing" or "bypassing" (chose your phrase here) the OEM ground wire.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: 04crf450
Date Posted: October 31, 2007 at 4:21 PM
It was the the stock ground to the chassis. I finally got it running. Thanks guys for all the help.





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