scan speak 15w/4531g 00
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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
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Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 7:35 PM
Topic: scan speak 15w/4531g 00
Posted By: kamberkash
Subject: scan speak 15w/4531g 00
Date Posted: November 06, 2007 at 12:03 PM
just wondering if anyone has a comment about this line of drivers. im looking to upgrade my front stage, and from what i have heard, these are some pretty good sounding drivers.
most of my concern comes from the description from madisound.com about these drivers. it says "... fantastic bass down to the mid 50's in a vented enclosure."
see, im going to be putting these drivers in the door so i really need a driver that performs well in an infinite baffle, as im not sure how to make a fiberglass door pod to put it in a ported enclosure (although that would be fun to try!)
i could actually use anything between 5.25 and 7 inches in the door, depending on how i want to mount them (bottom or top mounting)
so what do you guys think? im kinda stuck on the scan speak drivers, so if there is another model you think would work better, please let me know!
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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: November 06, 2007 at 9:14 PM
Amazing woofers! They are the speakers that alpine uses in it's F#1 status system, only thing different is it's cosmetics and their crossover system.
I was going to get a pair until i found my Adire Extremis woofers which seem to be around the same quality.
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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 06, 2007 at 10:02 PM
Agreed. Scan Speak is an outstanding brand. You don't "need" to put them in an enclosure. Door mounting will work. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: kamberkash
Date Posted: November 07, 2007 at 12:15 PM
really, the f#1? doesnt that go for like $1500? i see alpine uses ring radiator tweet, would that be the R2904/7000-00? very interesting...
so if i go with 7" woofers in the doors, where should i set the crossovers to for both the tweet and the woofer?
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 07, 2007 at 1:13 PM
kamberkash wrote:
really, the f#1? doesnt that go for like $1500? i see alpine uses ring radiator tweet, would that be the R2904/7000-00? very interesting...
so if i go with 7" woofers in the doors, where should i set the crossovers to for both the tweet and the woofer?
Depends on which tweeter you use. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: kamberkash
Date Posted: November 07, 2007 at 1:26 PM
i could get this to fit, plus its a little cheaper than the rest of them. What do you think?
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 07, 2007 at 1:32 PM
Those are nice, but why not use one designed for autosound, like THIS one? Cross at 2500-3000Hz @ 18 db/oct or greater. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: kamberkash
Date Posted: November 07, 2007 at 1:43 PM
wow, a LOT cheaper and, its a silk dome too! thanks DYohn. while we're on the subject, do you have any good references for getting new crossovers that will cross @ 18 db/oct?
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 07, 2007 at 1:58 PM
18db/oct is just a 3rd order crossover. A 2nd order (12db/octave) would work too. You will have to design and build one rather than buy one off the shelf... ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: November 07, 2007 at 2:30 PM
kamberkash wrote:
really, the f#1? doesnt that go for like $1500? i see alpine uses ring radiator tweet, would that be the R2904/7000-00? very interesting...
so if i go with 7" woofers in the doors, where should i set the crossovers to for both the tweet and the woofer?
Yes, the revelator ring radiator tweeter is also what was used in the F#1 setup, the 3 way system retailed for $5000 MRSP in Canada.
I saw some F#1 status crossovers on e-bay if you want to build a F#1 status replica. ------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: kamberkash
Date Posted: November 07, 2007 at 3:14 PM
hmm.. im not sure about going with a three way design up front... yet. mainly because i would have a hard time trying to figure out where to put the extra driver. my car has a spot for a tweeter in the a pillar, and a woofer in the door. without making some sort of fiberglass housing to put an extra midrange up in the pillar, i wouldnt know where to place it. (and i have no experiance with fiberglass so i would probably screw it all up!) does anyone know of a website,book, etc that could explain how to make a good 3rd order crossover?
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: November 07, 2007 at 3:49 PM
It sounds to me like you are really aiming squarely at an SQ system. If, indeed you are, FORGET THE A-PILLAR!!!
Your woofer and tweeter need to be MUCH closer than that... Too difficult to integrate them correctly when that far apart. Chances are WAY better than even that you'll NEVER get them properly integrated - the house is gonna win this one, pretty much guaranteed. IF you are bent on using the A-pillar, go three way, and then put a mid in or on the door, closer to the tweeter, but between the tweeter and the woofer.
No, really. It'll be worth it!
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 07, 2007 at 4:08 PM
Posted By: donpisto
Date Posted: November 18, 2007 at 2:52 AM
If I could fit 7" Scan Speak Revelators in my Accord stock location I would. But mounting depth is an issue. I heard the Revelators and they sound awesome. Great mid bass and I probably will pick up some 8" Revelators and go 4-way active in the future.
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