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button color change on alpine iva w200

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Topic: button color change on alpine iva w200

Posted By: danlong
Subject: button color change on alpine iva w200
Date Posted: November 11, 2007 at 12:40 PM

Has anyone attempted to change the color of the buttons on the IVA-W200? I'd like to change them from blue to green to match the rest of my interior. I'm not afraid to open it up and do some soldering if needed, and will probably attempt it anyway if no has done it. I'd just like to know beforehand if its a mistake to even try. Thanks!



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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: November 12, 2007 at 12:42 AM
its a mistake to even try.




Posted By: danlong
Date Posted: November 12, 2007 at 9:13 AM
Any particular reason you say that? I'm a former cell phone repair tech, so I'm pretty familiar with opening up electronic devices and working on circuit boards.




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: November 12, 2007 at 9:38 AM
If you've got the experience, and like getting your hands dirty, go for it... You absolutely WILL void your warranty, but if you're willing to accept that risk, do whatever blows your dress up. posted_image

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: danlong
Date Posted: November 12, 2007 at 9:59 AM
No warranty left on it, I've had it well over a year. I just like to have as much info as possible before starting a project like this to know if I'm wasting my time and money.




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: November 12, 2007 at 12:44 PM
I'm thinking that's going to depend completely on your skills, and the ability to get the desired color (and color (and brightness) MATCHED) LEDs.

Sure, it CAN be done, but is it really worth it? Are the LEDs in the unit SMD or discrete? If SMD, can you GET the desired color in the necessary case? I really think it's probably not worth it.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: dudehitt
Date Posted: November 12, 2007 at 1:49 PM
it should be pretty straightforward and easy if you've worked inside cell phones.  It's pretty common in the Scion customizing world, but it's usually done to the stock radio.  Hand-soldering 0603 or 0805 SMD LED's isn't easy, but it's not impossible.  If they are larger like 1206 or PLCC, nothing to it.




Posted By: danlong
Date Posted: November 12, 2007 at 10:15 PM
Well, I dug in and got the unit disassembled so I could find out what is needed. Here's a pic showing the offenders...
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I'm going to get some translucent paint tomorrow and paint the backside of the button yellow. The buttons have a diffuser on the back to spread the light from the LED. Since yellow and blue make green, it should give me the color I want without worrying about tracking down the right LED specs, having to order them, and then attempting to solder them in. I'm not worried about the shade being absolutely perfect, hopefully it'll be close though.




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: November 12, 2007 at 10:29 PM
Since LEDs make single lines of light, at a given frequency, if you filter out that single line, you'll get NO light out. With the exception of white LEDs, which actually are blue, painted with a phosphor, you can't put a different colored lens over it, and get light on the other side. I expect that your painting scheme is not going to work.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: dudehitt
Date Posted: November 13, 2007 at 7:32 AM

I think Haemphyst is right.  I put yellow silicone bulb covers over the green LED's I used to illuminate my AC controls and they didn't change the color at all.  They helped with diffusion, but that was about it.

I can't tell what size those are, but I had to change 34 0603 LED's in my stock radio.  It may be possible to use 0805's to replace the 0603's if that is what you have.  They are a little bit larger, making them easier to work with, but they still fit the contact pads.





Posted By: danlong
Date Posted: November 13, 2007 at 11:29 AM
I happened to have some standard LED's around, so I tested it last night using one of them. No matter what color filter I used, it still looked blue. I think I might just change the rest of my truck's lighting to blue to match the radio, it'll be easier (although more time consuming) and I do like the blue better.




Posted By: big sexy lac
Date Posted: November 22, 2007 at 9:24 PM
Well if I'm not 2 late I've heard la jolla audio in cali. Are pro's at changing the led colors on alpine give them a call maybe they can give u a hand.

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