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grounding, chassis vs battery

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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
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Topic: grounding, chassis vs battery

Posted By: ice32
Subject: grounding, chassis vs battery
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 12:55 AM

Hey,

I'm about to do another install and I'm wondering if its better to ground to the Chassis or straight to the Battery?




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Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 1:06 AM

It best to ground to a location where there is minimal resistance. The battery is often not a great ground. The battery is almost like an electrical filter, so I avoid using it.

Is this a vehicle with the battery in the boot?



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Posted By: ice32
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 1:20 AM
nah, just a ford falcon, the battery is in the front.

its just i was running wires in insulation under the car (found here) and i was debating running ground through there 2, or just to ground it in the boot.




Posted By: audiocableguy
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 9:47 AM
A bit extreme on the conduit. A properly sized fuse 12 inches from the battery is manditory after that a grommet going into the vehicle. What happens in the middle is up to you. I use welding cable spec. Carol Super Vu-tron. The jacket is tough enough and heat restant enough not to need any outer covering.

I have had to go straight to the battery on boat installs and have had no problems. That vehicle has alot of steel for grounding. Upgrade the Big3.




Posted By: coppellstereo
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 9:58 AM
Ground it to the chassis. Cheaper and easier. Why not make life a whole lot simpler and run your power cable on the INSIDE?




Posted By: ice32
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 3:16 PM
coppellstereo wrote:

Ground it to the chassis. Cheaper and easier. Why not make life a whole lot simpler and run your power cable on the INSIDE?



well for one its faster to do it in conduit under the car, and two it prevents the small lumps in the carpet, 3 seems its not going in the car and straight to the boot, it seems pointless to run a 4 maybe 2 gauge power cable down the inside of the car when it has no reason being there

plus if mounted right that conduit is pretty neat, safe and flush under the car.

guess i'll mount to the chassis, thanks for your replys




Posted By: coppellstereo
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 4:02 PM
What year is the car?




Posted By: ice32
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 6:08 PM
96 off the top of my head, its not my car, so can't remember the exacts, but pretty sure its a 96




Posted By: coppellstereo
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 9:14 PM
I worked on an old falcon, and it was rough. Newer cars should have a way to squeeze some power wire inside the car.

... to each their own?




Posted By: ice32
Date Posted: November 15, 2007 at 6:18 AM
yeh true, im just itching to try sum thing new i guess




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 15, 2007 at 8:24 AM

No one mentioned that the true ground in a vehicle is not the battery negative but the Alternator negative - which in most cases is the alternator case.  The return path for your amplifiers is through the vehicle's chassis, the engine grounding strap, the engine block, to the alternator case where it mounts to the engine.  This is why the chassis is the best place to ground your system - plus big pieces of metal will simply carry more current than cables.  (The exception of course would be a system designed to be used with stand-alone batteries and the engine off.)

I am not a fan of running power cable outside a vehicle, even in conduit, as there are just too many things that can go wrong and the cable can be damaged.  I say run it through the firewall and through the interior of the vehicle.



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Posted By: ice32
Date Posted: November 15, 2007 at 7:47 PM
Ok thanks, i'll have a think about it when i get the vehicle and take a look.





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