.187 quick disconnects for 12g wire?
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Topic: .187 quick disconnects for 12g wire?
Posted By: hardwarz
Subject: .187 quick disconnects for 12g wire?
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 9:22 AM
Where do you get .187 QD for 12g wire? I've searched my local electronic supply wearhouse, but they only had .250 and bigger for female quick disconnects for 12g wire. Thanks Hardwarz
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Posted By: hardwarz
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 9:41 AM
BTW, I need this for my JBL subs. They have a .187 QD, as does the adapter that is mounted in the box. Heck, the Infinity Speakers I just installed had .187 QD too. Hardwarz
Posted By: hardwarz
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 2:52 PM
I realize that this is also in General, but after thinking about it, I realize it should be here in Audio. Where do you get .187 QD for 12g wire? I've searched my local electronic supply wearhouse, but they only had .250 and bigger for female quick disconnects for 12g wire. I need this for my JBL subs. They have a .187 QD, as does the adapter that is mounted in the box. Heck, the Infinity Speakers I just installed had .187 QD too. Hardwarz
Posted By: hardwarz
Date Posted: November 18, 2007 at 1:36 PM
So, since there's no answers, am I to assume that everyone is using .250 female quick disconnect on the speakers? Even when using 12g speaker wire? Hardwarz
Posted By: audiocableguy
Date Posted: November 18, 2007 at 2:44 PM
Well, no reason to run 12 guage. Take .87 remove the insulator, push a small philips screwdriver into the end to enlarge the opening. Insert wire and crimp or solder
Posted By: techman93
Date Posted: November 18, 2007 at 3:26 PM
I had found some online that are for 16 - 14 awg. I didn't save the web but you probably can do a search in your browser for 16 awg crimp connector with .187
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Posted By: hardwarz
Date Posted: November 18, 2007 at 7:34 PM
Yeah, I've found .871 (3/16") in 14-16g, but never in 10-12g. So, am I to assume that there's no reason ever to buy 12g speaker cable and 16g will always be enough? Hardwarz
Posted By: hardwarz
Date Posted: November 18, 2007 at 7:35 PM
Oh, btw, I did modify the .871 and crimped it on the 12g wire. It was good enough for me. Hardwarz
Posted By: audiocableguy
Date Posted: November 18, 2007 at 8:32 PM
16 AWG speaker cable is perfectly acceptable inside a vehicle. Even with a 2KW amp the distances are such you would loose very little.
Posted By: crewwzin
Date Posted: November 19, 2007 at 11:18 AM
audiocableguy wrote:
16 AWG speaker cable is perfectly acceptable inside a vehicle. Even with a 2KW amp the distances are such you would loose very little.
I'm not quite sure I agree with this totally. I have had 16 AWG start to melt the insulation on a high wattage install before. I switched it out to 12 AWG and it played for years like that (until I took the system out of the vehicle). That scenario aside, if I did agree with you, I would have already written a letter to the Pioneer, Alma Gates, Memphis ,etc SPL teams and let them know that they wasted all that money using 8 AWG in their SPL rigs. They could have been using 16 AWG this whole time! ------------- I'd rather be in the boat with a drink on the rocks, than in the drink with a boat on the rocks!
Posted By: audiocableguy
Date Posted: November 19, 2007 at 12:26 PM
mmmm, I wonder how much of the 8 AWG is for show?
When your sponsers give you free product, you are going to disagree with them? Is it possible you had a high resistance termination that melted your 16 AWG? was your distance over 20 feet?
My old system: HiFonics Series 7 Colossus (x2) running x12 (12" Sub). Each amp running 2 ohms, if memory serves those amps do about +65 amps at the output. Never had a problem in 8 years. Now running Zapco 9.0 bridged (2800 W or so, using 16 AWG. Still no problems.
Even my PA rig JBL Vertec 4889,4880 with Crown MA-5002's I use 14 AWG multicable up to 100 feet and never experienced melting or heating. Thats (x4) 5000 watt amps running balls out 3 hours a night.
my vote is still for 16 AWG in a vehicle.
Posted By: hardwarz
Date Posted: November 19, 2007 at 12:27 PM
crewwzin wrote:
I'm not quite sure I agree with this totally. I have had 16 AWG start to melt the insulation on a high wattage install before. I switched it out to 12 AWG and it played for years like that (until I took the system out of the vehicle). That scenario aside, if I did agree with you, I would have already written a letter to the Pioneer, Alma Gates, Memphis ,etc SPL teams and let them know that they wasted all that money using 8 AWG in their SPL rigs. They could have been using 16 AWG this whole time!
Ok, with that in mind, where did they get the proper female quick disconnects? Did they use Streetwires .205 an not the proper fit .187? Did they use .250 and use plyers to squeese them down to fit better? What gives? Why do speakers have the .187 (3/16") standard and companies sell 12g wire? Hardwarz.
Posted By: audiocableguy
Date Posted: November 19, 2007 at 12:33 PM
.187 connectors are not rated for that guage of wire. 0.25 are made for 10-12 Awg wire because they carry a 30 amp rating.
Posted By: splaudio
Date Posted: November 19, 2007 at 6:43 PM
Posted By: hardwarz
Date Posted: November 19, 2007 at 8:32 PM
splaudio wrote:
www.partsexpress.com www.mcmaster-carr.com
Yeah, I already check McMaster and DigiKey. I used your link and checked Parts Express. So. Speaker manufacturers make the speakers in 3/16" (.187") and wire companies sell 12g wire, but there's no .187" (3/16") connector for 12g. Why? Hardwarz
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