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Topic: feedback through speaker after hid lights

Posted By: stevemondragon
Subject: feedback through speaker after hid lights
Date Posted: December 03, 2007 at 4:52 PM

I did a search under feedback, noise, HID(s) and headlights, and didn't really find what I was looking for.

I have an aftermarket HID kit, works great and has been for a couple of months now.  This is in my 92 Toyota Land Cruiser.  I've upgraded my head unit to a cheap Pioneer 2900MP, changed out the door speakers to Pioneer coax speakers that are wired up to the head unit and not to an amp, disconnected the factory amp behind the glovebox, and added a sub box with amp (powering the sub box only) in the back of the truck and running the power cable along the passenger side and through the firewall to the battery.

When my headlights are off, everything sounds clean and good.  No feedback issues what so ever.  As soon as I turn on my headlights, and the head unit is turned on, I immediatley hear feedback coming through the door speakers, mostly through the rear door speakers as it's louder there.  The feedback noise is constant and does not change pitch when revving or driving the car.  The feedback noise is constant as if it's directly interfering with the HID ballasts and not with the truck's coil.

Sure the HID kit is a cheapo kit and this was probably prone to happen, but the headlights are working out great and I don't want to upgrade to a more expensive HID kit.  Does the feedback noise have anything to do with the ballast itself, or the relay or even the grounds on the HID ballasts?  Is there something I can try that will help either reduce or get rid of all together the feedback noise?

Thanks




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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: December 03, 2007 at 5:01 PM
Where is the HID power supply mounted?  It is likely HF noise being picked up from the power supply (ballasts) by your HU or by the speaker wires.

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Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: December 03, 2007 at 5:21 PM

Yes, the ballasts must be properly installed or problems will arise. If I recall correctly, the metal ballasts cannot touch metal in the engine bay.

I installed an HID kit in MR2 with no audio interference, and ironically there was a Pioneer stereo installed as well. 



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Posted By: stevemondragon
Date Posted: December 03, 2007 at 5:55 PM

DYohn] wrote:

here is the HID power supply mounted?  It is likely HF noise being picked up from the power supply (ballasts) by your HU or by the speaker wires.

The ballasts are tucked away along the front core support of the truck, far enough away from the speakers and HU.

dwarren wrote:

Yes, the ballasts must be properly installed or problems will arise. If I recall correctly, the metal ballasts cannot touch metal in the engine bay.

Hmm, I wonder if my cheapo HID kit would cause the ballast to ground or interfere when touching metal-on-metal with the chassis?  I have the ballasts secured with double-sided tape along the chassis but I will pull them out and insulate them from any metal contact to see if that has any effect. 





Posted By: stevemondragon
Date Posted: December 04, 2007 at 11:10 AM

An update:

I removed the ballasts and insulated them completely from any metal contact.  Still hearing noise.

I reseated the HID kit and ballasts and cleaned the connections and made sure everything had a good clean contact.  Still hearing noise.

I tapped in an extra ground wire to the chassis from the relay on the kit.  Still hearing noise.

I had access to a couple of other HID kits (oem Phillips brand & a Hella kit, good quality ones), I plugged them in to test things out.  Still hearing feedback with both kits, so it makes me believe that the cheapo ballast on my original HID kit is not the problem.

When I plug in regular halogen bulbs, no feedback noise when they're turned on.

Any other suggestions on what the look for or try?  Again, it's a constant pitch/noise that you only hear when the headlights are turned on.  It has nothing to do with the engine noise or load on the engine, just when the headlights are turned 'on' with any HID kit.





Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: December 04, 2007 at 11:54 AM
The problem is the HID kit.  If isolating the ballasts from ground had no effect, if ensuring your HU and amps are properly grounded has no effect, and if moving the ballasts around physically has no effect, then it is possible your vehicle simply cannot handle them.  Some vehicle's are better at adding high energy loads than others.  You may just be out of luck and you'll have to decide which is more important to you: head lamps or sound system.

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