how much bang can i get out of my sub?
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Topic: how much bang can i get out of my sub?
Posted By: punkguyta
Subject: how much bang can i get out of my sub?
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 12:02 AM
I have a Pyle 1200 watt dual coil 4 ohm sub and all I have for a box right now is a POS ratty sealed box that I made some half crap air ports in (the sub is new though).
Pyle 1200 Watt------------- Chrysler LHS w/ infinity 11 speaker factory system, 1200 watt sub on the way.
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Posted By: ibasspro
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 12:14 AM
pretty good, 12oowatts, & the pics shows 1000. Any sub only sounds as good as the box it is in. With that said, a crappy sub is still a crappy sub, & I have not seen pyle come out with anything above entry level since I was a teenager, & MTX was making the Terminator, Rockford had the series 1, Punch & power subs (both power & punch had the same cone), & HiFonics just blew everyones mind the the 300watt Hercules...& Pioneer just came out with the DEH-P1 LOL ------------- used to be loud, used to be fast...now I am married LOL
Posted By: advanced_audio
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 12:23 AM
Well not much Pyle kind of sucks, well not kind of actually alot. You won't get much bang sorry.
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 1:54 AM
The answer is the question... They ARE, after all, PYLES... (As in piles of... well... let's just say the servers would filter my EVER so choice words)
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Posted By: jmelton86
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 2:30 AM
...depends on how hard you throw it into the wall  ------------- 2013 Kia Rio -90a alternator
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Posted By: collyn eastham
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 4:54 PM
jmelton86 wrote:
...depends on how hard you throw it into the wall
Or how close you can get a grenade to land next to them...LOL ------------- Collyn Eastham
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Posted By: jfinks
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 5:31 PM
How much "Bang" depends on how much Dy-NO-mite you use. Low dollar/ low quality is just that.....
Posted By: dragon51
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 5:42 PM
It's all a bunch of smoke in the end!
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 5:55 PM
Sure is shiney though.
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Posted By: jmelton86
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 6:20 PM
I think the flames on the cone are appropriate. Alright, seriously though... their webpage doesn't list any specs pertaining to enclosure sizes or recommendations. I'd throw it in a large sealed box, give it the RMS power it is rated for, and be done with it. ------------- 2013 Kia Rio -90a alternator
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Big3 in 1/0G
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Posted By: wirewise
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 6:24 PM
Even though it's an unpopular woofer choice, if you want the most available "bang" from that woofer, visit their site or contact them for the recommended enclosure type and size. Once you install it in a proper enclosure without over powering it, it may be fine for your taste and at the very least it should sound better than it does in the enclosure you're using now.
~wirewise~
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 8:19 PM
Good information Wirewise. To the others; everyone has to start somewhere with car audio, and not everyone can afford $400 subs. My first setup was of similar quality.
Posted By: punkguyta
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 12:54 AM
ibasspro wrote:
pretty good, 12oowatts, & the pics shows 1000.
Any sub only sounds as good as the box it is in. With that said, a crappy sub is still a crappy sub, & I have not seen pyle come out with anything above entry level since I was a teenager, & MTX was making the Terminator, Rockford had the series 1, Punch & power subs (both power & punch had the same cone), & HiFonics just blew everyones mind the the 300watt Hercules...& Pioneer just came out with the DEH-P1 LOL
Woops I didn't notice the picture said 1000 watt, my sub say's 1200 on it though. I'm a little confused to see all these people saying pyle sucks, I think it sounds good but I don't really know how good I can get it to go if I can't try it in a better box so I was gonna ask if anyone else knew. ------------- Chrysler LHS w/ infinity 11 speaker factory system, 1200 watt sub on the way.
Posted By: punkguyta
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 12:55 AM
haemphyst wrote:
The answer is the question... They ARE, after all, PYLES... (As in piles of... well... let's just say the servers would filter my EVER so choice words)
You've tried Pyle before? ------------- Chrysler LHS w/ infinity 11 speaker factory system, 1200 watt sub on the way.
Posted By: punkguyta
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 12:57 AM
tcss] wrote:
Sure is shiney though.
That's why I bought it, and surprisingly it doesn't sound as bad as you'd think. ------------- Chrysler LHS w/ infinity 11 speaker factory system, 1200 watt sub on the way.
Posted By: punkguyta
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 12:58 AM
wirewise wrote:
Even though it's an unpopular woofer choice, if you want the most available "bang" from that woofer, visit their site or contact them for the recommended enclosure type and size. Once you install it in a proper enclosure without over powering it, it may be fine for your taste and at the very least it should sound better than it does in the enclosure you're using now.
~wirewise~
Well put it this way, it's a hell of a lot better than this old apline 200 W sub I had, it was horrible. ------------- Chrysler LHS w/ infinity 11 speaker factory system, 1200 watt sub on the way.
Posted By: punkguyta
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 1:00 AM
Steven Kephart wrote:
Good information Wirewise.
To the others; everyone has to start somewhere with car audio, and not everyone can afford $400 subs. My first setup was of similar quality.
Well I can almost afford $400 subs but I have better things to spend my money on right now. It's a clean sounding subwoofer and I don't regret buying it, but I want to really hear what it would sound like in a bandpass box with maybe another one of them. ------------- Chrysler LHS w/ infinity 11 speaker factory system, 1200 watt sub on the way.
Posted By: jmelton86
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 1:14 AM
DON'T do bandpass!!!
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Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 1:33 AM
What are you trying to achieve by using a bandpass enclosure over another type? Are you planning on building the enclosure yourself, or having one built by a professional? As wirewise mentioned above, you really need a proper enclosure (as in one designed specifically for that sub) to get that sub to sound it's best. And this is more crucial with a bandpass enclosure.
Posted By: jfinks
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 9:04 AM
Punkguyta: I appolgiuse for my comment. It was not helpful or constructive. After all you are here asking an honest question. Wirewise is correct proper box design and construction will bring out the best that speaker has to offer. Pyle PL1290BL Specs I found this Fs: 23.2 Vas:4.90 Qms: 4.92 Qes: .84 Qts:72 SPL: 85 dB @ 2.83V/1m Pyle PL1090BL Specs I found this Fs: 26.9 Vas:2.39 Qms: 5.23 Qes: .89 Qts:72 SPL: 83.5 dB @ 2.83V/1m I put both because in the picture is the 10 but you said you have the 12. I do not have a box program handy but many here do. I could not find an optimum box on Pyles web site but manage to find these specs listed on a retailer site. hope this helps
Posted By: jfinks
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Click on This. The link will take you to a tutorial on this site that explains how to use a box design program that is provided free with a link on that page. You should experiment with other speaker parameters also. Through this process you will learn a lot. good Luck
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 5:06 PM
everyone does have to start somewhere...I started off with two bazooka 10 inch subs and a 150 watt amp...lol circuit city special
good size to start off with for most 12 inch subs is 2 - 2.5 cu ft tuned between 30 - 40 hz...then experiment if you want to to improve on the baseline sound. Most people are too lazy to built a bunch of boxes though and learn something
Posted By: Paradigm
Date Posted: December 08, 2007 at 12:15 PM
I'm glad we actually got to some good responses in this thread to help the guy out. As mentioned previously, everyone has to start somewhere. Flaming new posters just turns them off to the site and to the "hobby" of car audio, and ultimately makes us look like pompous airbags... When I came back to this thread, I thought, "how did this thing get to 3 pages? Are there that many people flaming this poor guy or what?" And by the way, I also started out with Pyle subs. Not one regret, either. It led to bigger and better things  ------------- VEHICLE: 2002 GMC Sonoma ZR2
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Posted By: punkguyta
Date Posted: December 08, 2007 at 11:10 PM
Steven Kephart wrote:
What are you trying to achieve by using a bandpass enclosure over another type? Are you planning on building the enclosure yourself, or having one built by a professional? As wirewise mentioned above, you really need a proper enclosure (as in one designed specifically for that sub) to get that sub to sound it's best. And this is more crucial with a bandpass enclosure.
Iwan't it to be loud! ------------- Chrysler LHS w/ infinity 11 speaker factory system, 1200 watt sub on the way.
Posted By: punkguyta
Date Posted: December 08, 2007 at 11:12 PM
Paradigm wrote:
I'm glad we actually got to some good responses in this thread to help the guy out.
As mentioned previously, everyone has to start somewhere. Flaming new posters just turns them off to the site and to the "hobby" of car audio, and ultimately makes us look like pompous airbags...
When I came back to this thread, I thought, "how did this thing get to 3 pages? Are there that many people flaming this poor guy or what?"
And by the way, I also started out with Pyle subs. Not one regret, either. It led to bigger and better things
Yes thankyou and I appreciate the help that everyone has given me. I figured this was a decent place to ask and obviously it shows. ------------- Chrysler LHS w/ infinity 11 speaker factory system, 1200 watt sub on the way.
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: December 09, 2007 at 5:14 PM
punkguyta wrote:
Iwan't it to be loud!
it won't be loud or sound good if you buy a prefab bandpass box.
Posted By: mrjc480
Date Posted: December 10, 2007 at 12:54 AM
I have customers that often want to go for the off brands such as Pyle, Boss, or Power Acoustik. I dont have a problem selling these but I do caution "You get what you pay for" and just because the amp says 2400 watts, there is no way that you can produce that. As Punkguyta mentions "I want it to be loud", there is nothing wrong with going this route. The only thing he will be missing is quality. As we all know the install is what makes or breaks a system. If you have the skills/tools to build a box then I would definitely start experimenting, otherwise a pre-fab 1.25 cuft/sub enclosure should work just fine. Be sure to reseal all the seams because Ive found that many prefabs tend to leak. Good luck to you and let us know what the outcome is!
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