Passlock II Simple Fix
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Topic: Passlock II Simple Fix
Posted By: Joe Trinkley
Subject: Passlock II Simple Fix
Date Posted: July 19, 2005 at 6:21 AM
Is this You? Get in your car....try to start it and find that the passlock II is screwed up again, you have to wait 10 minutes for it to reset. When it resets it starts up and runs fine. Fix-------Start the car, find the yellow wire that I'm sure you've read about, the rcode wire that is, and cut it. Shut off the car and you're done! The rcode wire on my 2001 alero is behind and to the left of the radio, you must take out the radio.....the yellow wire accompanies two other wires, the white and black, the 3 wires are alone and run inside what appears to be a cheap electrical tape that will fall apart in your hand when you start tugging on it, they are very thin wires, maybe 18 to 22. I taped off both ends of the yellow wire too. Took me about 14 days to find this out and reading no exageration 1000 posts. Forget all the relay, DEI and resister crap that I'm sure you've read about. All this writing assumes that this will continue to work.....i WILL be back here to post an update if it fails again. If you have doubts of me coming back to update a failure you can email me at joetrinkley@aol.com to confirm continued success. Thanks for all your replies in other threads and thanks most goes to the person who told me of this trick. Joe
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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: July 19, 2005 at 8:27 AM
Thats a solution (a poor one at best) for a real problem. Its like a bandaid on a cut where stitches are needed. The problem still exists.. You know how to fix it....but you don't know whats wrong. Don't get me wrong, its good advise. But you still don't know what the real problem is? -------------
Posted By: Joe Trinkley
Date Posted: July 19, 2005 at 8:49 AM
KarTuneMan wrote:
Thats a solution (a poor one at best) for a real problem. Its like a bandaid on a cut where stitches are needed. The problem still exists.. You know how to fix it....but you don't know whats wrong. Don't get me wrong, its good advise. But you still don't know what the real problem is?
The problem lies with the lock cylinder, but not anymore. There's no point in turning this into a relay/DEI/resistor thread, there's about 25 of them out there that lead you nowhere already.
Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: July 19, 2005 at 9:11 AM
<<<<<The problem lies with the lock cylinder, but not anymore. There's no point in turning this into a relay/DEI/resistor thread, there's about 25 of them out there that lead you nowhere already.>>>>> Really makes sense to Defeat the Factory Security..........
Maybe if we all get together on this site, we can all have NO Factory Security on all the vehicles.
Who knows, maybe we could post "How to Disable All Types of Alarms" As you said KarTuneMan......"like a bandaid on a cut where stitches are needed."
Some people have No true understanding of Mobile Electronics ------------- MO
Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.
Posted By: Joe Trinkley
Date Posted: July 19, 2005 at 10:11 AM
never claimed to, just a fix guys, don't get all bent out of shape over this....anyways I hope someone can find this useful. No reason for personal insults either.
Posted By: Skunkpu
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 9:49 AM
Actually I would like to thank Joe Trinkley for this fix. I have been struggling with this damn passlock issue for two+ years now. For those of us that can't afford to pay $400 - $500 for the dealership to fix their faulty equipment, this is welcomed. I certainly don't have the technical knowledge that most of you do to fix it on my own. One last thing, if you guys are so passionate about fixing it rather than bypassing it, I welcome you to come over and fix my car for free. I doubt you will. Just my input.
Posted By: Joe Trinkley
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 11:33 AM
glad someone can find it useful, still works too.
Posted By: Joe Trinkley
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 11:39 AM
My car does NOT have a remote start by the way, I got a PM from someone expressing concern for this fix if your car has a remote start.
Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 11:49 AM
Skunkpu wrote:
One last thing, if you guys are so passionate about fixing it rather than bypassing it, I welcome you to come over and fix my car for free. I doubt you will. Just my input.
I think the point is that the info Joe provided may help a few people that are having problems and can't spend the money to fix them. So thank you. But as installers, we'd rather see most people get the issue corrected to maintain the highest level of security and prevent theft. That is what most of do for a living, automotive security. We pride ourselves in doing our job correctly and doing quality work. It is just that though...a job. Why on earth would anyone want to fix someone's car for free? ------------- Steve G
Posted By: Skunkpu
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 2:16 PM
Of course. Called Ancira Winton Chevrolet @ (210) 681-4900 and of course they deny that there is or ever was a problem. As if myself, along with many others, are making it up. So, after fighting with them they tell me to call the GM CUSTOMER SERVICE @ 822-222-1020 and they of course deny ever hearing this problem. Both told me they would not fix it for free nor at a reduced cost. Joe Trinkley was mereley trying to help people help themselves and I just thought he got a little burned by the other two that commented. Joe and I know what needs to be fixed, and it is exactly as he stated "lock cylinder" or ignition cylinder and no the dealership will not help. It's not in their best interest to fix something for free even if it is a defective part. They wouldn't even tell me what type of passlock system it has. How's that for service? I defend that you guys do this for a living and it's just a job, but please don't assume that people are just as better off in this world as you are. And please don't cut someone down when they are just trying to help other people help themselves. Trust me, if I and everyone else in this forum had the extra money to get THINGS fixed properly by a certified tech, this forum wouldn't exist and I still wouldn't have this problem. All I want to say.
Posted By: Skunkpu
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 2:18 PM
And just want to say thanks to Iskidoo for the post on my specific topic. It is greatly appreciated. Have a good day.
Posted By: TJ92Civic
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 2:25 PM
Does the Passlock light on the dash come on when you do this? I'm just wondering. Sounds like a good idea for people low on cash.
Posted By: Skunkpu
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 3:17 PM
"Anti Theft" in red, lower left appears on dash. Just blinks continuously.
Posted By: Joe Trinkley
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 3:37 PM
My "security" light stays on continuous. I read about a "FIX" for this which is get back there and disconnect that bulb or whatever but it doesn't bother me. (or put a piece of black tape over the light to cover it). Even with people not low on money, I've heard of the lock cylinders malfunctioning continuosly, why waste the money. Especially for me with a damn Alero, if I wanted to put 500 bucks into the car it can go into better places than the security of the car. I'm saving right now for the next set of brakes and hubs that it will need. Oldsmobile denied me the fix too and said they've never seen one with this problem and if I couldn't get it to do it in front of them then there really is no problem at all. They don't care
Posted By: Skunkpu
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 5:11 PM
That's pretty much the consensus from others I have spoken to that have talked to their dealer about this problem. Other than the light staying on, any other ill effects Joe?
Posted By: OhioMike1101
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 7:15 PM
Why not correct the problem with a couple relays/resistors instead of ghetto hacking it?
Posted By: Joe Trinkley
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 8:32 PM
Skunkpu wrote:
That's pretty much the consensus from others I have spoken to that have talked to their dealer about this problem. Other than the light staying on, any other ill effects Joe?
Nothing at all
Posted By: Joe Trinkley
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 8:40 PM
OhioMike1101 wrote:
Why not correct the problem with a couple relays/resistors instead of ghetto hacking it?
Why are you so late? The bashing was at the beginning of the thread, I think it's past that now. Besides if you want to take your own advise why not just buy a new lock cylinder, isn't relays and resistors just another hack? I love it
Posted By: Joe Trinkley
Date Posted: August 11, 2005 at 11:34 AM
forgot to add that the bundle of 3 wires comes out of your ignition
Posted By: Skunkpu
Date Posted: August 11, 2005 at 7:44 PM
Thanks Joe. Will be doing this next week.
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