2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial

This is a pictorial for a remote start and security system into a 2004 Mountaineer/explorer. The system installed was a Viper 5704 with a Dei Pkall bypass module.

It is important to prepare your r/s alarm system as much as possible for install. find wiring diagrams and test all wires with your digital multimeter.



Remove front driver, front passenger, and passenger rear step panels by pulling up on them. Remove instrument panels according to diagram.

1.remove two screws at top of instrument cluster ring.
2.remove two screws at bottom of steering column casing after (there is a third screw at rear you will see after removing bottom casing.
3.remove top casing
4.remove two screws holding bottom dash cover.
5.pull cover off. (there are snaps)
6.remove three screws holding front dash cover on then simply pull out by the driver side window vent pulling from snap. (do not have to remove whole panel just loosen it)
Run door triggers first that is the hardest part. You have to either use a Dei door trigger module or use 8/1amp diodes and 4/10k ohm resistors as followed (Diodes are directional, make sure your diodes are in the direction shown)

this is how I made my diodes work.




finished adapter (you can do the same method with your resistors the only difference is it dont matter what direction your resistors are)

msure to test all diodes before installing in vehicle. to do this set dmm to diode mode. one way will read 0 the other way should read as shown. (aslong as you get a reading one way and no reading the other your diodes are ok.)


all door triggers, hatch release, and hatch trigger will be found together at rear passenger side step.

finished Door trigger setup

this is how to run wires for the door/hatch triggers,hatch release, and resistor 12v feed.


optional* use a drill. insert ends of all wires into drill hold the other ends heading to rear and twist wires (makes it easier to run and put tubing on.

run wires up passenger kick and behind glove box like shown. wait to run to drivers side until you run your siren, hood pin, and tach wire.

finished setup


run siren, tach, and hood pin wires into glove box area as shown.
on the passenger side under the hood at the firewall there will be two wires (I think they are gray and black) coming in with a rubber boot. from the inside by the glove box run a coat hanger thru. make sure to poke thru top of rubber boot and do not mess the factory wires up. after poking coat hanger thru it makes it easier if you then poke a phillips head thru boaring out a bigger hole. then put your coat hanger back in and pull your wires into the cabin.


install Piezo (optional)just tap into red and black siren wires.


run wires into driver side


setup siren tach and hood pin under hood. (have not installed hood pin yet just ran wire)



here is where I ran hood pin wire to so far..


run control center behind rear view tuck wire into headliner and down driver window frame(just pull door seal off and pull trim off it just snaps on no screws) I didn't have to tape the control center on I just pulled the wire panel going to the rear view out just enough to stick one side of the antenna behind it and it stays real well.


pull wires using hanger

place alarm module in a good spot. it is real hard to find a spot on explorers of this year because the dash is so tight. this is how I done it.

run remote start and parking light wires to the same spot as shown. Start from behind fuse box and pull using coat hanger.

Parking light connection

Ignition


bypass module


transponder connector at ignition key tumbler. (green connector)


when its done it looks like this

run locks, dome light and trunk pop relays

trunk and dome relays


shock sensor


ground (alarm module, neutral safety, and sirens)


Done


when tapping into factory wires cut insulation about 1/4 inch then poke a tooth pick or rubber handled pic thru the center of wire. cut the wire you are running about a 1/2 inch poke thru hole and twist real good make sure it is not loose.

solder your connections and insulate real good! if you are not good at soldering you can really mess things up in your vehicle. it would be best for you to just make sure your connections are tight and then insulate. I like tape over heat shrink its a personal thing. if you do tape, use zip ties around everything to hold a good insulation.
its better to run once and last years then run sloppy and your car catch on fire!

this is my first alarm install and pictorial I hope it helps someone else not wanting to spend a house payment on an alarm install =)

some pictures didnt show up right this is the ignition


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When in doubt....kick it!

Very nice!! Congrats on your first install.

It shows that you did your research. It would be nice if more people took their time and did it right.

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  X 2 with Frank.  Excellent write-up with great picture and advice. 

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Soldering is fun!

These are pics that didn't show up because I had bad file names (thanks Kregg for the info)=)

Diodes: you want to make sure the wire ends are taped or insulated separately like shown then the other ends can be put together into one wire.


Piezo location (optional)

The ignition pictures that didn't show up



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When in doubt....kick it!

Thanks guys!!! I was so worried about putting them fuses in after I was done lol I mean all them wire connections and diodes, resistors and stuff was crazy!!! =0)I thought my ride was gonna catch on fire haha I got to give you guys credit without Kregg, shortciruit, and flobee I wouldn't have got it done like I did you guys all rock! Kregg you da man. Huge thanks to you all. Im pretty sure after this install I could probably do any alarm system lol.

Another tip for people. When you get it all hooked up make sure to program the tach, set the viper to automatic transmission before you program the Pkall. (and go thru the steps as fast as you can) I tried to program my module first and failed like 6 times lol.

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When in doubt....kick it!

I installed my hood pin today. I looked and looked for a good spot to place the pin into the metal frame and I really couldnt find a spot I liked that would be free from water and also not get broke off if someone was working on the engine (like when installed in the front of car). So I rigged up something with a old dryer plug bracket I had laying around =)








I soldered a wire on to the metal bracket to make ground. You could make ground in another way but I feel it would help save from corrosion of any sort. I also made sure the top of the pin hit the hood head on by slowly closing the hood and looking inside and bending it slightly until it was right. I know if it his sideways sooner or later it would just break probably..

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This was what the bracket originally was like. I just bent the curves straight, folded one end of the back down, then shot it with some primer and black paint..


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When in doubt....kick it!

That looks sharp and should last a lot longer than the one supplied in the kit.  Well done! 

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Soldering is fun!

Thanks bro! I think it will to. I also added some de-electric grease to everything. I really didn't want to put that metal one that came with the kit on, I know them suck. And hey if this acts up I didn't drill any holes I can just rip it out run the wire back to the hinge and go the mercury switch route with ease ;)


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When in doubt....kick it!

Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but didnt want to create a new thread when the answer is already here.

I have the Autopage C3-RS-665 with LCD. Im about 85% done of installing, but just had a question. I did all the door triggers like above already. The alarm wire "Negative Hood/Trunk trigger", I know this gets connected to the Wht/Violt and Tn/LtGrn wires, but do these need to be isolated as well (just like the door triggers with the diodes)?

My trunk and Hood keep flashing open; locks and unlocks with remote, but does not Arm.

Thanks!
(2002 Explorer)

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I love Cheese.

No you dont have to diode isolate them at all just make sure you have your alarm set on them triggers to the proper Settings. Normally closed setting on both. =)

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Ive looked through the manual for the alarm, doesnt have anything for setting the hood/trunk to auto-closed. I dont think I tapped into the right wires for the hood or trunk, sometimes it shows closed and sometimes its open. Can i just run a wire all the way to the trunk and tap into the trunk trigger wire instead of @ bcm? and the same thing for the hood switch?

thanks!

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HI There..  Great post, and install by the way ...I am thouroughly confused and stuck; have been for 2 weeks now.  Hope you can take the additional time to help a fellow out.

1) Can you possibly detail the wiring of your unlock trigger assembly (the one you made)
     a. The diode direction is not clear
     b. I can not understand why you need resistors
     c. Why 8 diodes instead of 4? ---I see only 2 wires in your pic ( colors of rears)?
 2) Where excactly and what wires did you tap?
     a. I have the car gutted, so I can access ANY wire ANYWHERE
     b. The wiring schematics online seem to contradict the dome light.   How did you trigger it?
     c.  I can not find the door triggers in the drivers sill.  They run from the sheath in the drivers kick panel, and I can access all of them.
3)  Did you diode protect any other wires.
4) is it neccesary to place a relay on the rear glass pop,   What polarity is it?

Thanks so much for the help

Tommy

heres a follow up to the install...

wired direct to the door pins with diodes.

remote locks/unlocks the car, as well as the alarm going off when any door is opened (except trunk...didnt wire)

now I have a battery drain problem....

once armed everything shuts down.  about 2 mins later, the done light comes on, and the stereo turns itself ion!.   It stays like that until battery drains.

what year/make/model car you have and the model of the alarm?


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I love Cheese.

if on a 02-05 explorer, i found that the ORANGE / light green wire needs to be tapped for the hatch release. This wire is in the passenger-rear sill. You need a relay for this as well.

For the radio/dome being on, maybe check you have the right wiring. I know one wire that I tapped into would turn on the radio and light with no key. I would say check your relay and/or 12+constant wires.

Relay Diagram:
https://www.the12volt.com/12voltimages/neg2pos.gif

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I love Cheese.

Very good pictorial and write up. I am actually gonna be doing a 2004 Explorer this morning so I thank you for the help.

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