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2007 civic remote start with pkh34

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 14, 2024 at 1:54 PM


Topic: 2007 civic remote start with pkh34

Posted By: Trey99ek
Subject: 2007 civic remote start with pkh34
Date Posted: December 21, 2007 at 5:40 PM

Ok car is 07 civic Si.  Remote start is a compustar 2w900fmas.  Attempting to use thePKH34 but I don't know how to wire it.  It says to use the 7 pin plug and wire it up the colors don't match.  The paperwork does not include wiring for the 06 and 07 civics.  I just followed the pinouts and that didn't work.  Then I messed around it said it was programmed but nothing.  I can only get my remote start to work without the bypass with the key in the switch.  Do I need to hook the keysense up to something here or not.  Also the bypass unit comes with 2 sets of directions, both of which have me lost.  A Install A "type C" and a Install B "type D."  What ones to follow.  Please help.



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Posted By: Trey99ek
Date Posted: December 21, 2007 at 5:43 PM

Where is the data wire?

The unit says the green plug is the one to use and it is a 7 pin.  Well the green plug on my car is a 6 pin with only 3 wires.  Now there is a white plug with 7 wires and that did not work.





Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 21, 2007 at 8:22 PM

You will be using INSTALL "B" aka Type D.

Honda Civic 2007 Transponder pinout.

7 Pin WHITE Connection. if you see a 6 pin harness with 3 wires, that is the wrong connector.

Pin 2 - Ignition (Yellow)
Pin 3 - Data (Light Green)

*How To Wire PKH34*

Wire RED - to 12volt constant @ ignition harness
Wire BLACK - Ground wire to chassis.
Wire BROWN - to status output from compustar module.
Wire VIOLET - tap into the Pin 3 (light green) @ the 7 pin WHITE connector on the transponer ring.

take 1 minute of your time and solder the VIOLET (DATA). a loose connection is not reliable at all.  





Posted By: Trey99ek
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 11:34 AM
Ok wired up and it still won't work.  Only works with a key in the ignition.  Is there something I need to hook my keysense wire up too?




Posted By: moonliter
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 12:31 PM

You don't need keysense wired up.

Had u reprogrammed the module after u got it wired up ? If not, do a module reset first.

  • To reset, press & hold button & plug in module, Led comes on, When led goes off, release button, module is reset.
  • To program, turn key to ignition on, led goes on.
  • After led turns off, module is now programmed.
  • remove key from ignition & try remote start.




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 12:41 PM

Wire RED - to 12volt constant @ ignition harness
Wire BLACK - Ground wire to chassis.
Wire BROWN - to status output from compustar module.
Wire VIOLET - tap into the Pin 3 (light green) @ the 7 pin WHITE connector on the transponer ring.

That one is key......



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Posted By: Trey99ek
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 5:16 PM
I got it wired up right.  I'll try to reset it and see what happens.




Posted By: Trey99ek
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 7:53 PM
Ok I reset it twice and still it won't start unless something is in the ignition.  I am about to go to walmart and buy a blank key to leave in it.




Posted By: xxajohnsonxx
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 8:24 PM
do u have an extra key to the car? like a grey valet key or something? Becuase if you do there is a way to do it without the module. Its super easy, did it yesterday myself on this '07 civic at my job.





Posted By: Trey99ek
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 8:46 PM
I do, but it is not a valet key.  And I don't want to leave that in the car.  Care to explain?




Posted By: xxajohnsonxx
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 8:49 PM
theres a method of wrapping the key so to speak

it requires a key, some wire, and a relay, its very easy to do but it does make a key stay in the car.

If you had a valet key that would work so much better




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 9:20 PM

well if u cant for some reason get yout system to start, u can take a relay and do a bypass, however u must leave a key into the car. If u can return the pkh34, i suggest u pick up the Fortin HONDA-SL3. super easy to use and it will work for sure. if u want to do a relay

85 - Constant 12v
86 - ground out from running to remote start

20 feet of 20 - 22 gauge wire.

87 - one end of 22 gauge wire, Run that wire and wrap it around the ignition 4 - 8 times, route the wire back to 30
30 - the unconnected end of 22 gauge wire. with key wrapped in 22 gauge wire.  





Posted By: Trey99ek
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 11:29 PM
No the bypass works fine.  Only if I have something jammed into the ignition switch the kit the button that makes it think a key is in it.  I don't have to use my honda key.  I can use a screwdriver and make it work.  That is why I was asking about the keysense wire since I figure that would be the same thing as putting a "fake" key in the switch.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: December 23, 2007 at 1:13 AM
I just had a 2007 in yesterday and there's a WHITE plug with a smaller LIGHT GREEN wire in pin # 3 ( I believe ) and this is the data wire. The wire next to it ( #2 ) is your ignition. Using the iDatalink module ( ADS-TB ) there is only a 2 wire connection and turn vehicle to ON and it's programed. Worked like a charm. The worst thing is the tach signal on this vehicle for us because the injector and coils do not give a signal fast enough for the RS's we use and causes problems when the temp gets below 0 celcius. We use the alternator sense wire on these vehicle and have great success with that.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 23, 2007 at 9:36 AM

No the bypass works fine.  Only if I have something jammed into the ignition switch the kit the button that makes it think a key is in it.  I don't have to use my honda key.  I can use a screwdriver and make it work.  That is why I was asking about the keysense wire since I figure that would be the same thing as putting a "fake" key in the switch.

for the pkh to know a key is in, the IGNITION wire must be hooked up. the ignition input from the pkh will act as a keysense. Pin 2 - Ignition (Yellow)





Posted By: Trey99ek
Date Posted: December 23, 2007 at 11:04 AM
I'll give it a try and hook that up once the rain stops.  Just use the PHK's igntion wire to the yellow wire in the white plug.  Correct?




Posted By: enice
Date Posted: December 23, 2007 at 11:15 AM

The programming that Velocity mentions should be EXACTLY what you should do.  The instructions dont mention anything about hooking up an ignition....Make sure you have a solid ground at the kick panel and also get the constant 12v source from the igntion harness.  After that then reset your bypass and try it again.  Also make sure that you have the right data wire. 

If that fails just replace the bypass module as their should be nothing else you should be doing to make it work....period





Posted By: Trey99ek
Date Posted: December 23, 2007 at 1:48 PM

That did not work.  I dont' know what is wrong with it.  For now I am just going to get a key blank and leave it in the switch over night.  I would look into that idatalink kit, looks nice, but right now I don't have the money to spend on a 3rd bypass.  Velocity.  I have no problems with my injector for the tach.  Different systems I guess.

Thanks for the help.





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: December 23, 2007 at 6:04 PM
Are you sure that the bypass module is not working? It could be that the tach is not being learned and the system doesn't recognize that the starter is engaged drags the starter giving you an immobilizer fail scenario. I had this happen on the first Civic that I did where the Compustar unit didn't recognize the tach below 0 celius. If in fact the immobilizer is not being bypassed properly, then the green key in the dash will start flashing rapidly. Check to make sure that your tach is infact being learned and that the green light in the dash is flashing or not.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: Trey99ek
Date Posted: December 23, 2007 at 9:27 PM
No the bypass works.  It will start but I need something in the ignition switch.  I am not talking about my OEM key with the chip either.  I can use a house key or  a screwdriver and it will start.  That is why I kept asking about the keysense wire because that is basically the same thing.  I don't get the green flashing key.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: December 23, 2007 at 11:19 PM
Ground the PINK wire at the key cylinder and see if it starts.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: Trey99ek
Date Posted: December 24, 2007 at 11:39 AM
I tried that but there was more to it.  When you ground it the dome light comes on and I have my door trigger wired to the domelight supervision.  So with that it attempts to start, keep in mind the car is still armed.  Light comes on and off the siren goes.  I am going to re-wire the doors to the correct wires as much as a hassle as it is going to be.  Then I'll give that a try and see if that works.  Ideally if so what would you hook the pink wire up to?





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