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03 silverado alarm, rs problems

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 03 silverado alarm, rs problems

Posted By: bvic01
Subject: 03 silverado alarm, rs problems
Date Posted: December 21, 2007 at 7:55 PM

Ok, I had an autopage rs-1000 alarm and remote start installed in my 2003 silverado pickup today. Alarm works fine, remote start works fine. Im driving it home from the shop (about 45 minutes away) and about 15 minutes from my house the check engine light comes on and the engine dies on the highway. I pull over restart the engine and continue on. Well now the doors lock and unlock by themselves along with the dome lights coming on one of the times periodically as Im driving. There was also a chime coming from the door chimes. The manual states this is normal for the check engine lights i was getting. Im still not home at this point. The engine dies a few more times. At one point I got an airbag warning, at another point i got brake warning lights, all of which disappeared after i re-started the engine. I never had ANY problems before I got this installed, obviously it's something with the alarm system. I can't call the shop now cause they're closed, but Im calling first thing in the morning. The installer has been installing alarms for 15 years and works for a reputable shop so Im confident in his abilities. Is there anything obvious that I could do myself to fix this? Im very nervous about how to get my truck back to the shop since it's so far away not knowing if it's gonna die on me on the highway again. Anybody have any clue what could be wrong?



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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: December 21, 2007 at 8:05 PM
What ever you do..... DO NOT touch the truck yourself. Period. Let the installer/shop tow the truck (you really shouldn't drive it, even if you can) it's not safe.

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Posted By: bvic01
Date Posted: December 21, 2007 at 8:15 PM
KarTuneMan wrote:

What ever you do..... DO NOT touch the truck yourself. Period. Let the installer/shop tow the truck (you really shouldn't drive it, even if you can) it's not safe.


ok, that's what i figured, im not gonna go messin with it, but id like to know what could be causing this. Have you ever heard of this type of behavior before?




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 21, 2007 at 8:53 PM

that is some serious problems from a remote start!. take it back, the shop covers lifetime warrenty on installs, so they should fix it @ all cost. Hope they have insurance.





Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: December 21, 2007 at 9:10 PM

I would say, don't worry about what you, or I , or us, think is the problem.... it rerally does not matter.

It is a major malfunction.... for sure. It could be a multitude of errors on the  installers part, as well as some

product failure......it's really too hard to say.  Your symptoms point towards BOTH.



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Posted By: bvic01
Date Posted: December 21, 2007 at 9:21 PM
tedmond wrote:

that is some serious problems from a remote start!. take it back, the shop covers lifetime warrenty on installs, so they should fix it @ all cost. Hope they have insurance.




oh they're sure as hell gonna pay for all extra costs related to this. i have a good family friend that's a lawyer who has already offered his services should i have any troubles. I doubt i will as it is a reputable shop, BUT it's nice to have that behind me. As far as the problems go, i imagine it has something to do with the ignition. The cycling locks could be due to the lock/unlock in sync with the ignition which is a fature of the alarm, and as far as the engine dying, if it was an ignition problem, that would make sense as to why it would die at times and simply cut off for a second at others. i hope this gets worked out tomorrow, but i doubt it as the installer that did my truck doesn't work weekends. Maybe one of the other techs can look it over. At this point im leaning toward ignition problem. Im very good with electronics and vehicles and usually do my own work but i decided to go with a professional for my alarm and rmeote start so i could get it done right. That backfired. I did my radio, speakers, and subs all myself, and i guess that's why i was so keen on possibly fixing the issue myself. only problem is i don't have any clue where all his wiring is hooked up and he hid th ebrain damn well. I can se no wiring for the alarm under the steering column and he even hid the siren behind my headlight so you cant even tell there's an alarm if you look under the hood. im so frustrated right now that it's ridiculous. Oh well. Anybody have any input on my ignition theory?




Posted By: ralphtonka
Date Posted: December 21, 2007 at 10:26 PM

if you can find the bypass mod (type or model should be listed on your bill), small black box 2"*3"*1" may have red led that comes on or flashes when you hit lock on new remote, unplug it. DO NOT USE STARTER/ALARM, start truck w/ key check ops.

Sounds like a bad mod or connector.





Posted By: techman93
Date Posted: December 21, 2007 at 11:10 PM
Could also be a bad ground or loose connection. Which all should be covered under some warranty.

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The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
Do it right the first time... or I might have to fix it for ya




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: December 21, 2007 at 11:48 PM
As suggested before.......DON"T touch it.   Don't even take the bottom of the dash down. Don't look for a bad ground. Don't look for the bypass. If you're a gambling man, go for it.... I would play it safe, unless you NEED to drive it and have no alternative!      If this is an example of the skill and quality of the joint you paid good money for a professional job, you can bet your butt they will look for a reason it's not their fault.  Please man, you don't want to end up like mabuffalo (remember that guy and his woes?) 

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Posted By: bvic01
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 3:52 PM
managed to get it back to the shop this morning. They didn't act like this was anything unusual which could be good or bad. If they've seen it before oculd mean an easy fix, if they have seen it alot that means they need a better installer which i highly doubt. Possibly a faulty alarm? I may just have them switch it out for a clifford. we'll see. Thanks for all the input.




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 4:48 PM
autopage rarely have a defective units; just like DEI products. of maybe 100, u find the odd 1 or 2. autopage is reliable and durable from what i have seen.




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 5:18 PM
Make sure you update us on the solution.....

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Posted By: xxajohnsonxx
Date Posted: December 22, 2007 at 8:29 PM
I am almost positive they forgot the 2nd ignition wire or are using a system that they did not set the jumpers properly to do second ignition.

If you dont do second ignition on this car and you remote start the vehicle you can SERIOUSLY SCREW something up




Posted By: bvic01
Date Posted: December 26, 2007 at 12:21 PM
Ok, shop called and said they completely removed the alarm and it was no longer happening. Obviously it was the alarm. The RS-1000 is not an alarm they normally sell but was a special order item so instead of putting a new one on they are swapping it out for a comparable clifford for no upcharge. Either way im satisfied. Only difference is no color remote. Big whoop right. I should get the truck back today or tomorrow.




Posted By: bvic01
Date Posted: December 27, 2007 at 1:19 PM
ok....more bad news. The hsop installed a clifford 50.5x in place of the rs-100 for no extra charge as they should have done, but the problem seems to have reappeared with the new alarm. Spoke to the owner a few minutes ago over the phone and he told me they have isolated the issue so now it only does it when the truck is remote started but not when it started with the key.   That's progress i guess. At least it's safely driveable if i start it with the key. He said they were about to get tech support on the phone to see if there is a fix for the issue. he never specified what part was causing the issue. i guess is hould have asked but oh well. As long as my truck gets fixed it doesn't matter to me. Does anybody have any clue what could cause this? He said he'd never seen this issue on all the cars they've done. He said my truck was their most common type of vehicle and this is the first one to do this. Any input from ya'll?




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 27, 2007 at 2:21 PM
its probably the install. i dont blame the truck. if you can start it fine without any problems with the key, but during remote start it acts all funny, its the install for sure.. Autopage and Clifford (DEI) are great companies.




Posted By: speed of sound
Date Posted: December 29, 2007 at 11:07 PM
I have seen an installer go through the fire wall through the factory rubber grommet and break a few wires forcing a long flat head screwdriver through it.  Needless to say his lazy a## got fired.  Check to make sure ignition #2 white wire is being powered up by remote starter as an ignition wire.  Not doing so will ruin your transmission.  Also check that tach wire is not grounding out, and last check the diagnostic OBD-II plug wire purple not grounding out

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230 pershing Dr
Ansonia, CT 06401
203-954-0066





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