bypass module issue, 07 navigator
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=100525
Printed Date: May 16, 2025 at 3:16 PM
Topic: bypass module issue, 07 navigator
Posted By: techman93
Subject: bypass module issue, 07 navigator
Date Posted: December 28, 2007 at 10:17 PM
Installed a new xk04 into a 2007 Lincoln Navigator only a few weeks ago after the previous modules were unlearned from vehicle anti theft system. DEI had stated that it was an issue they have heard about a few times. They told my boss to add a relay to the TX green wire from module. 87a and 85 to ground, 86 to ignition 12v+, pin 30 to car side of cut wire and pin 87 to module. Has anyone had experience with the same issue? I did a remote starter last Saturday in a 2006 Ford explorer and it came back in today with same issue. My boss from that job had a key in box installed by other installer and that fixed that vehicle.
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The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
Do it right the first time... or I might have to fix it for ya
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Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: December 28, 2007 at 10:28 PM
xk04-pkford will not work on most 06+ ford vehicles, it needs to be reflashed to xk04-pkf3 and the blue wire then needs to be hooked up to ignition.
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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: techman93
Date Posted: December 28, 2007 at 11:28 PM
Thanks for the info
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The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
Do it right the first time... or I might have to fix it for ya
Posted By: bbtaco
Date Posted: December 29, 2007 at 11:17 PM
extreme1 wrote:
xk04-pkford will not work on most 06+ ford vehicles, it needs to be reflashed to xk04-pkf3 and the blue wire then needs to be hooked up to ignition.
Will the xko4-pkford work on a 2008 Escape?
Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: December 30, 2007 at 12:12 AM
bbtaco wrote:
extreme1 wrote:
xk04-pkford will not work on most 06+ ford vehicles, it needs to be reflashed to xk04-pkf3 and the blue wire then needs to be hooked up to ignition.
Will the xko4-pkford work on a 2008 Escape?
no, it needs to be reflashed as well.
I have stopped using the xk04 on new fords all together, and use the ads-tb-fm ------------- Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: Memphisman
Date Posted: December 30, 2007 at 5:38 PM
I use the KEY-OVERRIDE-ALL by Fortin. Works everytime.
Posted By: techman93
Date Posted: December 30, 2007 at 11:32 PM
who sells fortin products wholesale? Does fortin or wholesaler have a web address and what are they?
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The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
Do it right the first time... or I might have to fix it for ya
Posted By: racing_bidule
Date Posted: December 30, 2007 at 11:52 PM
iDataLink product advantages:
- The module records the entire learning process and operations
- The product works perfect on all TE Ford immobilizer systems including 2008 vehicles with smart keys
- If any difficulties would occur with the module there's an advanced debugging webtool offered on the Installer Helpdesk
- It's the only company offering the ability to clone the key from a past software
- It's the only company giving you a direct channel with their engineers true the Helpdesk
I invite you to try the iDataLink Products; www.idatalink.com/helpdesk
FYI Fortin website is www.fortinautoradio.com Regards. ------------- If you fail on your first attempt, at least destroy all evidence you tried!
Posted By: xk04bs
Date Posted: February 26, 2008 at 10:08 PM
I just got done on a 2007 Ford Escape and after trying everything, i just connected the brown "ground when running" of the XK04 to constant ground !! ... i think this bypasses the system fulltime but my remote start is an alarm also, sure this was my last resort but that is the only way i could get it to work....i think i could have tried other things but gave up after trying about 1,000 things already !!! 
Posted By: brent88
Date Posted: February 26, 2008 at 11:20 PM
i just had a 2007 escape go south as well with an xk04. would the reflashing to a different firmware have solved this problem?
Posted By: mikvot
Date Posted: February 27, 2008 at 6:10 PM
I'm with memphisman....I only use Fortins keyoveride all for Fords, and have never had a failure.
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