1996 grand am, remote start

I have a autocommand add on rs # 25522 and the installation guide states for the Passlock I system to reverse the ignition wires. see below
Note that for these vehicles with PASSLOCK, the AutoCommand’s Green Ignition 2 wire goes to the vehicle’s White Ignition wire. The AutoCommand’s White Accessory wire goes to the Vehicle’s Orange Ignition wire.

The ignition wires in the 96 wiring diagram show
ign 1 Pink
ign 2 Brown
ign 3 Purple

do they mean the Orange accessory wire?

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Is there anyone familiar with this autocommand 25522?

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Ok no help so far the I will figure out the differences from the manual
and the car wiring but there is another variant about this installation. the r/s add on unit has 2 ign. wires but the car has three the manual says to split ing 2 with 2 relays to create ign 3 but I want to use one relay wired as so.
86 tapped from ign 2 on r/u
85 to ground
30 to ign 3 (car)
87 to +12v
87a no connection.
will this work without to much draw on the ign 2 relay in the r/s?


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franka wrote:

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I have a autocommand add on rs # 25522 and the installation guide states for the Passlock I system to reverse the ignition wires. see below
Note that for these vehicles with PASSLOCK, the AutoCommand’s Green Ignition 2 wire goes to the vehicle’s White Ignition wire. The AutoCommand’s White Accessory wire goes to the Vehicle’s Orange Ignition wire.

The ignition wires in the 96 wiring diagram show
ign 1 Pink
ign 2 Brown
ign 3 Purple

do they mean the Orange accessory wire?

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Not sure what exactly you're trying to ask here...the wiring info also lists the orange accessory wire if this is the wiring diagram you mean.  Can you elaborate what you're having trouble/wondering about?

Talking about the alarm statement in the manual, the text on my message after Note is exactly what the manual shows but there is no white or orange ignition wires only orange wire is accessory

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Chris the problem is with the installation manual it has the wrong colors of wires listed when compared to the list on this site. the section of the manual for passlock 1 is stateing to reverse the ignition wires and mentions colors that are incorrect. if you look at the manual for the autocommand model 25522 and go to the passlock l section you will see what I mean

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What are the actual wire colors at the ignition switch on the car? Never mind what this site's info says, you need to open up the car and test them to see if they are constant, accessory, ignition, start, etc. and connect them as such. I've never seen a purple ignition wire on a Grand Am of any year or a 3rd ignition of any color - there are maybe 2 GM vehicles I've ever seen a 3rd ignition on.

My info shows the following:

Constant 12v+ = Red, RED / White
Starter = Yellow
Ignition = Pink, White
Accessory = Orange (they don't list brown, though there probably is a brown acc. wire on your car it may not be necessary for R/S).

Again, you need to actually look at the wires going to your ignition switch and meter them.

Also, what do you mean by 'reverse the ignition wires' for Passlock? The diagram they show in your manual doesn't mention anything like that; it shows how to interface with the Passlock wires which aren't exactly in the ignition harness(they go into the top of the key cylinder, not the back).

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Sorry for the time delay but there was a family emergency.
I finally looked at the wires in the car and you are correct.
the ignition wires match what you typed.
I went ahead an installed the system and the R/S activates correctly to start the engine then the engine dies after a second or 2 I believe this is the Passlock I system as when the engine is runinng for the few seconds the security sys light flashes until the r/s system is shut off The car will still start with the key and run normally.
I have followed the troubleshooting section of the 555l manual but still no luck. I was in fear that this would happen since there is no (-) output for R/S status on the R/S unit. Due to this I installed a relay   connected to the start wire to activate and it sends ground to the 555l blue/black wire while the system is cranking. but this must not be correct timing as the system will not start.

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question, Does the 555l need to be active all the time or just when the car is starting? currently the 555l Violet wire is connected directly to the starter relay on the car so it gets a ground during crank. the blue /black wire has been connected to a relay off the start wire to ground during crank also but when it is connected then the car will not start with the key or the R/S and the security light flashes. when I disconnect the blue/black wire then the car starts with key normally but when R/S it dies and the security light flashes

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Here is the way the 555l is wired:

BLACK / YELLOW - to vehicle side of passlock wire (cut and soldered)
Yellow, to key side of passlock wire (cut and soldered)
Black, center wire of passlock wires (tapped only)
Blue / Black, ground while cranking from relay via the start wire.
Violet, ground from starter relay (when cranking)
Pink, ignition 1 wire at remote start unit
Red, +12vdc constant



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Blue/black should be connected to a ground out when running wire or if you don't have one you can use a negative ign wire.

I tried that also but no r/s still security light shutdown


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here is the latest saga
I guess I must have another problem it seams when the 555l is active the car will not start I can feel a little click in th eunit which i assume means its active and when i simply ground the blue/black manually the the car will not start even with the key I am beginning to think the unit has not learned the code needed and have tried several methods of learning the code from reading on the 12 volt site but still to no avail. I am getting extremely frustrated with this job and am now wondering if the 555l is possibly failing.
Here's what I did last night.
(1) connected the blue/black wirer to the brown (-) pulse wire as discussed
(2) started the car with the key (ran normally)
(3) removed the yellow and BLACK / YELLOW and tested
for resistance reading from the yellow passlock to the passlock ground.
(4) reconnected the yellow and yellow black and verified the black bulb test wire
(5) started the car with key (ran normally) would sill not start with r/s
(6) with the ignition on attemted to get a resistance reading from the 555l when active, no reading shorted.
(7) disconnected the violet wire from the starter relay and theblue/black from the brown(car would would not start with remote
(8)connected the blue/black to ground while cranking but car now would not start with key or r/s.
(9) reconnected all wires except the blue/black
(car ran with key again) still not on remote start)
(10)let car run with key for 15 minutes then left ignition in the on position for about 20 minutes.
attempted another r/s (no start)

lost on what to do next

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I have decided to go with a method I saw on this site for conneting the 555l.
connect the blue/black to (-) while running. via a relay from the start wire.
connect the violet to acc, site states the acc falls to ground while cranking. hope this works

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to add: the violet will be controlled via a relay from the key sense wire so when the key is in the violet will be open.

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Read my PM. Thanks

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C Renner's Auto Electronix
My service is cheap, quick, and good - pick any two

Thanks for the post. I have just about lost my mind on this one it seems when the 555l is active the car will not start with key or r/s this lead me to believe the 555l did not have the correct code or is defective, I have connected the violet wire and the blue/black in several ways but with no r/s success. I have also tried several methods to (learn the code) based on reading here. long time with ignition on, started and run for several minutes, among others. now ready to punt. any more advise would be great. i have been communicating with chriswallace187 and he has given me some tips but the 555l just seems not to work properly.

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a new idea since all so far have failed.
here is the explanation from the 25522 manual for the wire i want to use
14.YELLOW /GREEN Alarm Control Control Harn
The YELLOW /GREEN wire is specifically designed to control the Ignition Input
of the remote control alarm system which is triggering the AutoCommand. Connect
this YELLOW /GREEN wire directly to the Ignition Input of the alarm. This YELLOW /GREEN wire will go to +12 volts anytime it sees +12 volts on the AutoCommand’s BLUE IGN 1 wire from the key. Thus this output follows the IGN 1 status. The only exception is that when the AutoCommand is powering up the vehicle this wire will not activate. Thus the alarm remains operational during AutoCommand control -- but not otherwise when the key alone is controlling the igntion. This is a 300 mA transistor positive output....

I will use this to fire up a relay to send ground to the blue/black wire of the 555l this should make the 555l active only during r/s

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I just cut the passlock wire a tapped it up now alls fine. I still think the 555l I have is junk. The evidence is that when I got the 555l to activate the car would not start. Perhaps when it warms up I will mess with it some more. Thanks to all, all done for now.


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