2003 durango r/s problem start then stop
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 27, 2024 at 5:16 PM
Topic: 2003 durango r/s problem start then stop
Posted By: 98k1500chevy
Subject: 2003 durango r/s problem start then stop
Date Posted: January 10, 2008 at 4:41 PM
i just installed a remote starter on a 2003 durango, and it will remote start and run for about 5 seconds then shut off, it will do this three times then its done. It will start normal with the key. The key is a walmart key, just metal, so i don't think there is an immobilizer in this vehicle? any ideas whats wrong? thank you
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Posted By: tonyberg
Date Posted: January 10, 2008 at 4:45 PM
tach problem is what it sounds like
Posted By: 98k1500chevy
Date Posted: January 10, 2008 at 5:05 PM
its not the tach, i disconnected it and with the tach wire disconnected it will just crank and not start at all. any one else with some help on this?????
Posted By: roadworks
Date Posted: January 10, 2008 at 6:32 PM
What color is the ignition key?.. If it's grey then you has a security system and need to bypass it...
Posted By: 98k1500chevy
Date Posted: January 10, 2008 at 6:45 PM
it is a regular key, no chip, not the gray century key
Posted By: tonyberg
Date Posted: January 10, 2008 at 7:05 PM
it doesnt make any sense that with the tach wire disconnected it would not fire the engine, usually no tach wire connected would make it grind the starter....what kind of unit did you put in?
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 10, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Is there a RED LED in the dash and when you remote start the vehicle does it flash?
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: 98k1500chevy
Date Posted: January 11, 2008 at 4:04 PM
with the tach wire disconnected when you remote start the vehicle just cranks, starts normally with the key though, with it connected the vehicle will start and run for about 5 seconds and then shut off. I did not set up any door locks on this vehicle, customer had the factory remote for it and just wanted a remote to remote start the vehicle. also i did not hook up the factory alarm disarm wire, did not think this was necessary ... and as for your question velocity, i do not remember seeing a light on or flashing in the instrument cluster.... does this vehicle have an immobilizer? again it is NOT the gray key
Posted By: wiretapper
Date Posted: January 12, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Double check your tach signal with a digital multimeter. MAKE SURE it rises and falls with the rpms. If it is a constant AC voltage with the vehicle running no matter the rpm's it will stall on remote start. An '03 with no transponder, eh? Must be a stripper. I haven't seen a late model Durango WITHOUT a transponder yet.
Posted By: 98k1500chevy
Date Posted: January 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM
ok i will check the tach signal, although i do not think that that is the problem i would think that if it was the tach signal that was the problem it would react the same with it disconnected, but it wont even fire when disconnected but when connected it will run for exactly 5 seconds everytime. I still have this vehicle and it is still not fixed luckily it is a friends vehicle but i need to get it fixed REALLY SOON, any other ideas? anyone think that it is because of the factory alarm disarm wire that is not hooked up?
Posted By: 98k1500chevy
Date Posted: January 15, 2008 at 3:55 PM
does the alarm disarm wire need to be hooked up on this vehicle in order for it to start and stay running? since it does not have the gray transponder key is there any other immobilizer?
Posted By: tonyberg
Date Posted: January 15, 2008 at 7:58 PM
no it does not need to be hooked up, if it was equipped with factory security the horn would honk for a while, but it would start and stay running
Posted By: aaronrs4
Date Posted: January 15, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Where did you go for the tach signal? Try using a fuel injector and see if the issue is resolved. I have seen some Chrysler vehicles (mostly the trucks & SUVs) that certain remote starts dont like some tach signals but going to the fuel injector fixes it.
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Posted By: kdogg
Date Posted: January 16, 2008 at 9:06 AM
Maybe I can help. I happen to own a 2003 Dodge Durango SXT 4X4. Mine has the black key and I didnt have to use a 791 bypass module. I put in a Bulldog 500 Deluxe. I tied into the number 1 spark plug wire (yellow/Red) as the tach signal and have no problems at all. Maybe in the way you hooked up the ACC wires?
Posted By: 98k1500chevy
Date Posted: January 20, 2008 at 8:33 PM
hey guys thanks for all the ideas and help, i am really great full, i have not had the time to check up on here or work on that vehicle in a little while, i will be in a couple days, as far as the tach signal goes, i hooked into the spark plug wire, not the GREEN/ orange, and as far as the acc wire setup, i try a couple of configurations because it has a secondary accesory and secondary ignition, and my remote start only had the output for one secondary ign. or acc. so i tried a couple different hook ups and got the same result on all of them. kdogg, could you tell me how you hooked yours up and what wires you hooked to, thanks again guys
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: January 21, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Try these 2 diagnosis steps and let me knwo how you make out.
1) Put the key in the ignition and try remote starting it. If it starts, then somehow you have do have an immobilizer. If it still does not start, then move on to step 2.
2) Activate the r/s and right as the r/s turns the ignitions on, turn the key to the "on" position. If the vehicle stays running, then you are missing either an ignition wire or an accessory wire.
3) If that still doesnt work, then set the r/s to voltage sensing (if possible) just to see if it is the tach or not.
Also, what I have found is that on many chrysler vehicles when you program the tach rate, it is better to bring the rpm's up to about 1200 before programming it. The reason is that when it is warmed up, the rpms tend to be very low... so the r/s senses the tach too early and shuts down before the vehicle can start.... however this doesnt seem like it would be your issue since it is starting but not staying running.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: kdogg
Date Posted: January 22, 2008 at 5:13 PM
I will look at my wiring tomorrow if I have a chance (I have 2 remote start keyless entry alarm installs to do). The alarm that I put in had the second ign and I dont have rear controls so I didnt need the other ACC. Check and see if you wired it per this becuase as far as I remember this is how I did mine..... | MODEL | YEAR(S) | | DURANGO | 2001 -2003 |
| KEY | T-HARNESS | IMMOBILIZER | | CHRY KEY-4 | N/A | CHRYSLER'S SENTRY ANTI-THEFT TRANSPONDER System (GRAY IGNITION KEY), Requires 791 Bypass Module and Extra Ignition Key |
| PART | COLOR | LOCATION | | 12 VOLT CONSTANT | PINK/BLACK (+) and RED / LIGHT BLUE (+) | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | | STARTER | YELLOW (+) | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | | STARTER 2 | N/A | | | IGNITION 1 | BLUE (+) | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | | IGNITION 2 | GREEN/ RED (+) 18 Gauge wire | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | | IGNITION 3 | N/A | | | ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 1 | DARK GREEN (+) Front Blower, Use Both | IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS | | ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 2 | BLACK/ ORANGE (+) Rear Blower | | | KEYSENSE | N/A | | | PARKING LIGHTS ( - ) | RED / YELLOW (-) | @ CTM, Connector 1, Pin4, See NOTE *1 | | PARKING LIGHTS ( + ) | BLACK / YELLOW (+) | @ HEADLIGHT SWITCH | | POWER LOCK | WHITE/ GREEN (1-Wire Door Lock System) See NOTE *2 | @ CTM, Connector 2, Pin 10, See DIAGRAM | | POWER UNLOCK | Same wire, See DIAGRAM | See DAIGRAM | | DOOR TRIGGER | TAN (-) and TAN/RED (-) Use both, See NOTE *3 | @ CTM, Connector 2, See NOTE *1 | | DOMELIGHT SUPERVISION | TAN (-), Requires #775 Relay | @ CTM, Connector 2, Pin 15, See NOTE *1 | | TRUNK RELEASE | N/A | | | SLIDING POWER DOOR | N/A | | | HORN | BLACK/ RED (-) | @ STEERING COLUMN HARNESS | | TACH | See NOTE *4 | @ IGNITION COIL | | WAIT TO START LIGHT | N/A | | | BRAKE | WHITE/ TAN (+) | @ SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL | | FACTORY ALARM DISARM | DISARMS WITH UNLOCK, Single Pulse Disarms | | | ANTI-THEFT | CHRYSLER'S SENTRY KEY (GRAY KEY ONLY) A TRANSPONDER SYSTEM See NOTE *5 | TRANSPONDER @ IGNITION SWITCH TUMBLER |
| EXTRA INFORMATION | | NOTE *1 the CTM (Central Timmer Module) is located in the DRIVERS KICK PANEL. NOTE *2 this vehicle uses a 1-Wire Door Locking system, with Factory Alarm, the ARM/LOCK requires a (-)Negative thru a 644 Ohm Resistor and DISARM/UNLOCK requires a (-)Negative thru a 1565 Ohm Resistor and a Double Pulse Unlock. On vehicles without Factory Alarm, LOCK requires a (-)Negative thru a 820 Ohm Resistor and UNLOCK requires a (-)Negative thrua 330 Ohm Resistor, some units will require 2 extra relays Part #775, to connect, See DIAGRAM NOTE *3 the DRIVERS DOOR is a TAN (-) at Pin 15, the PASSENGER DOOR (and the REAR DOORS if a 4 DOOR) is a TAN/RED (-) at Pin 13. When connecting to an ALARM SYSTEM, use BOTH DOOR TRIGGER wires and DIODE ISOLATE, See DIAGRAM. NOTE *4 on the 5.9L engine, use the BLACK/ GRAY wire at the IGNITION COIL for the TACH wire. on the 4.7L engine, use the wire that is NOT a GREEN/ ORANGE at the coil. NOTE *5 If your vehicle was manufactured before MAY 15, 2004 and you need to have another IGNITION KEY PROGRAMMED to be placed inside the 791 TRANSPONDER BYPASS Module to get around the CHRYSLER SENTRY KEY (GRAY KEY), YOU MUST have this KEY PROGRAMMED by your DODGE DEALER ONLY or the KEY WILL NOT PROGRAM . |
Posted By: 98k1500chevy
Date Posted: January 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM
hey guys thanks for all the help, well the vehicle is finally finished and working. i was reading what offroadzj was saying in his final sentences there, where he was talking about "when you program the tach rate" and it hit me, i had hooked everything up and it was getting the tach signal, BUT being a novice on his 4th remote start thinking i could just blow through it because they keep getting easier the more i do, i forgot the last step in installing this remote start, i never programmed the tach signal!!! programmed the tach and it works great, thanks again everyone for helping me out with this vehicle and putting up with an inexperienced installer!!!
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