errors in dei manual alarm trigger zones

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Topic: errors in dei manual alarm trigger zones

Posted By: c00l
Subject: errors in dei manual alarm trigger zones
Date Posted: January 18, 2008 at 4:18 PM

I have a Viper 5900 which is made by Directed Electronics (DEI).
There are many inconsistencies with which trigger sets of which zone.

There are many other alarms with the same problem as this one. These alarms are have pretty much the same exact manual:

    Viper 5900 Installation guide:

    Python 990 Installation guide:

    Clifford Matrix 50.5X Installation guide:

    Clarion Ungo SR9000 Installation guide:


In the table of zones, there are these errors:

Zone 1 - Trunk Input (H1/7 Blue - it's not)

Zone 4 - Multiplex input is green??? H1/7 blue and is zone 4?

Zone 6 - hood pinswitch and brake switch

Does anyone know what is right and what is wrong.

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Posted By: c00l
Date Posted: January 18, 2008 at 4:22 PM

I forgot to put the alarm manual links:

    Viper 5900 Installation guide:
        https://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N5301V_05-06post.pdf
    Python 990 Installation guide:
        https://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/python/N5301P_05-06post.pdf
    Clifford Matrix 50.5X Installation guide:
        https://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/clifford/N5301X_05-06post.pdf
    Clarion Ungo SR9000 Installation guide:
        https://clarion.com/us/en/MungoBlobs/551/878/SR9000_installation,1.pdf

Posted By: geotexz71
Date Posted: January 19, 2008 at 9:12 AM

These are DEI standards. The zones and wire colors are the same across the lines and have been for some time. There is nothing wrong with the zone table or wiring guide. If you keep searching beyond the identicals by differnent names, you'll find that to be true. Most of us installers have the wiring memorized because of this very fact.

What specific problems are you having? We might be able to help you troubleshoot your wiring.

Posted By: TNTPROAUDIO
Date Posted: January 19, 2008 at 9:50 AM

The Green and Blue mux (shock sensor) wires actually report the same zone. Older alarms used one of them for instant and the other for warn away. Now they both do the same thing, they are diode isolated from each other so you can use one wire for one sensor and the other wire for a different sensor, such as a tilt or a radar sensor.

Hope this helps

Guy

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TNT Pro Audio, Memphis

Posted By: c00l
Date Posted: January 20, 2008 at 4:30 PM

geotexz71 wrote:

...There is nothing wrong with the zone table or wiring guide...

H1/7 (Blue) reports to:

Zone 1 - According to Table (pg 53)
Zone 4 - According to Description (pg 18)

H3/3 (BROWN) Brake trigger & H3/3 (GRAY) Hood trigger report to:

Zone 6 - According to Table (pg 53)
Zone 1 - According to Description (pg 25)

Zone 4 is linked to:

Green Multiplex shock sensor input - According to Table (pg 53)

H1/7 (Blue) - According to Description (pg 18)

H1/7 Multiplex Input is a blue wire that is meant for an additional sensor (in addition to the two blue and green wires on the shock sensor port)

The BLUE & GREEN Shock sensor wires report to zone 2 according to the description of the shock sensor on pg 32.
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[B[QUESTION: How can there be nothing wrong with this? It seems like it is completely contradicting itself

Posted By: geotexz71
Date Posted: January 20, 2008 at 6:06 PM

Man, looks like I stuck my foot it my mouth! posted_image

Probably should have really looked hard before I answered!

Reality is, I work wire color by memory, and I haven't personally done anything more than vanilla installs with much more than window rolls lately. My guys do most all installs these days. Looks like you may be more interested in specific zone reporting than anything else?

Traditionally hood is 6 and trunk is 1. Never known the brake shutdown to report as a zone...