RS addon/ no work help!
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: RS addon/ no work help!
Posted By: thiswire
Subject: RS addon/ no work help!
Date Posted: February 26, 2003 at 10:57 PM
96 accord lx, it remote start when i manually ground it. but when hookin up to the unlock wire nothing comes on. please help
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Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: February 26, 2003 at 11:26 PM
More info needed
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: February 27, 2003 at 1:10 PM
Yes, more info needed like what unit you installed, and where you grabbed unlock wire, and why you used the unlock wire and not the lock wire  .
Just going on the information you have though, you may need a relay if the lock wire does not have enough juice running through it to trigger the starter.
Make sure you use the lock wire as your trigger though, and make sure you have tested the wire you are grabbing: Use a Digital Multimeter and the wire should read 12volts at rest, and when you press the lock button on the keyless entry transmitter it should drop to zero volts. if your lock wire that you grabbed tests like that and it does not trigger the remote starter then you will need a relay with the lock wire as the trigger. Oh yeah and once everything is working, dont forget to program the unit to require three pulses to trigger the remote start feature or else you will start your car eveytime you lock the doors. ------------- J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: thiswire
Date Posted: February 27, 2003 at 4:38 PM
i hooked to lock wire, do you have to use the unlock wire? i got the wire from the 3 pin gray plug that runs to the factory keyless unit. when i tested on the lock wire it jumps up couple after pressing lock. i think it is RES remote start add-on
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: February 27, 2003 at 5:44 PM
try using a relay to trigger the RES add-on. Hook it up like this: Tap the lock wire like you did, not the unlock wire. Run this wire to pin 85 of the relay, use a diode on this wire with the band facing the lock wire. Pin 86 goes to 12v+, Pin 30 goes to the RES-R trigger input wire, and pin 87 goes to ground. This will make it work if what you have told me thus far is accurate.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: thiswire
Date Posted: February 28, 2003 at 10:15 PM
ill try it on sat and ill post the result
Posted By: thiswire
Date Posted: March 04, 2003 at 10:29 AM
i havent try the relay to trigger the RES add-on. but when start it manually by grounding it, it cranks normal but doesnt stay on for long, last only 2-3 sec then off and then it try to crank again. i havent hook up the tach wire, it say it's optional to the neg side of the coil. if i were to hook this up, would i just hook it up to the blue wire on the injector with 2 wires on it. why does it say neg side of the coil, is that mean its a neg pulse. am confuse about this. but i test it using positive. this is what i did to test my tach wire, dmm set to ac -200v/ black probe to ground and red to the wire. it reads at 32 and steadily jumps up as reving on the gas.
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 04, 2003 at 10:45 AM
Yes hooking up your tach wire will solve the problem of it not staying running. Make sure you switch the unit over to tach mode. Your tach signal should read beteween 1 and 6 volts AC. You can use an injector wire by grabbing one of the unique colored wires. All injectors share one common colored wire, so do NOT grab the common one.
Hooking the relay up will definately solve your trigger problem: that is if you have it setup right.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: thiswire
Date Posted: March 04, 2003 at 11:20 AM
but the manual say "optional (-) coil tach input. do not connect unless the remote start fails to retry if the first crank attempt fails. connects to the (-) of the coil. keep away from high voltage wires. if used, set sw5 to 'off'. so what i have right now is volt sensing, and if i use that wire and sw5 to off then i have it in tach mode? i dont understand why testing that tach wire shows in 30s volts. it increase in volt when i rev on the gas. i got this cheap DMM, i dont know if it matters? i did put it in AC mode testing. any input to this would be great. and thanks a lot J Rilla you been very helpful.
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 04, 2003 at 11:39 AM
You said the car shuts off after a few seconds, so that means that voltage sensing mode is not working. This is why I said to hook up the tach wire and flip the #5 dipswitch. I am not sure what is going on with your DMM. If you use the injector wire you will not have to test it, it will work for sure.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: thiswire
Date Posted: March 04, 2003 at 11:42 AM
ill test it out, and ill repost the result
Posted By: thiswire
Date Posted: March 04, 2003 at 9:50 PM
i got the car to start now can you help me find the disarm wire. it say to open like two wires so disarm. i wouldnt know where to look for. i thought it would be through the door, but unlocking using the key doesnt disarm the unit. i thought it would be disarm through the key cylinder like the newer model accord. this is a '96 accord
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 04, 2003 at 9:55 PM
Are you sure this is a factory alarm? Is it possible it is an aftermarket alarm?
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: thiswire
Date Posted: March 04, 2003 at 10:30 PM
am positive it is a factory alarm, everytime i push lock 3x to remote start, the alarm (horn) goes off. so am thinking you have to disarm it. am not too sure about this process.
Posted By: thiswire
Date Posted: March 04, 2003 at 10:32 PM
like when i arm the car and try to start it with my key, alarm goes off.
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 05, 2003 at 12:36 PM
Does the alarm sound when you remote start too.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: March 05, 2003 at 7:39 PM
yeah the alarm sound when i remote start
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 05, 2003 at 7:44 PM
I think that your alarm must be an aftermarket alarm that will not likely have a disarm wire. Try to find out what alarm was installed and from there you might be able to figure out a way around this problem. You may be able to program the alarm to ignore when the ignition is powered up. If there is a shock sensor you may need to turn down the sensitivity if that is also triggering the alarm.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: March 05, 2003 at 7:50 PM
new SN i dont use thiswire anymore
am telling you the unit is say honda on there, its a accord LX '96 the remote is black oval with red panic button at the bottom. the diagram show that there are disarm wire. so am stuck at this point.
but i can disconnect the ignition wire off the unit. but i havent try that through.
i notice that when you put the key in, it beep and this not letting you use the remote anymore. when i disconnect that plug that goes to the beeping unit, you can use the remote again. but there are like 6 wires to that plug, you have any idea how i can bypass this.
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 05, 2003 at 8:37 PM
On all of the newer Honda alarms you need to go into the door to disarm. Does the alarm disarm when you unlock the doors with the key in the drivers door? If it does then you may be able to grab a wire in the door to disarm.
Ok wait I just looked up a 97 accord and it says that the alarm is under the passenger seat. The disarm wire is RED / blue at the a;arm unit.
I dont know if that is helpful since you seem to have found the alarm unit under the dash, unless that is actually not the alarm and just the module that makes the chime when your keys are in the ignition.
I dont have any specific info on that alarm so I am just trying to help where I can.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: March 06, 2003 at 12:11 PM
the key does not disarm the alarm. i thought it would but it doesnt. ill check with the RED / blue wire. the chime is in diff place. thanks.
ill repost my result.
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: March 06, 2003 at 9:01 PM
hey sorry jrilla, man i was thinking stupid. it doesnt sound when i start the engine. well this was my buddy's car. and i found a way to use the remote during the engine is on.
sorry for all the trouble.
thanks a lot
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 06, 2003 at 9:04 PM
hey thats great. what did you do to get the remote to work? Cut the ignition feed to the keyless module? I am just curious.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: March 06, 2003 at 9:29 PM
there were two wire that make the unit not to work. power and ignition. when you put in the key(this is where the chime start to sound), they is a wire that cut off the power to the unit so i cutted that. and yeah there is an ignition wire. i cutted that too. but ill use a relay on those wires next time.
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