5 wire switch? sure but from where/what

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 5 wire switch? sure but from where/what

Posted By: rekd65
Subject: 5 wire switch? sure but from where/what
Date Posted: January 23, 2008 at 2:24 PM

Hello all

Ive been working on my 63 econoline now and have come to the installation of the power window and locks. The windows are done and thank you for all your help....

now I have done a black widow keyless entry system but am stuck in that I need a reversing switch and have no idea where to find one? IF I knew what sort of vehicle might have used them I could easliy obtain one. So there in lies my Q Does anyone know what vehicle used these switches??

thanks

Kevin

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Kevin

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Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: January 23, 2008 at 3:08 PM

If you have a black widow keyless system on the vehicle now you should be able to get by with any type of switch. I'm guessing the black widow unit has a (-) out that drives two relays. You can add switches and wire their outputs to the (-) keyless brain output.

If the Black Widow unit has built in locking relays you could still add normal switches and add relays to do the 5 wire switching.

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Kevin Pierson

Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: January 23, 2008 at 3:41 PM

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=666 This diagram will work for your locks too Just wire all of your actuators to where it says motor. The 2 relays in the diagram are known as a reversal \ rest at ground circuit.

Posted By: rekd65
Date Posted: January 24, 2008 at 5:15 AM

This is the drawing of the black widow system

https://www.blackwidowsecurity.com/currentpdf/bw853%20complete.pdf

It shows no bulit in relays???

DOES ANYONE have a drawing??! PLEASE

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Kevin

Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: January 24, 2008 at 7:58 AM

rekd65 wrote:

This is the drawing of the black widow system
https://www.blackwidowsecurity.com/currentpdf/bw853%20complete.pdf
It shows no bulit in relays???
DOES ANYONE have a drawing??! PLEASE

Go to page 3. The top right of that page start describing normally open, normally closed, and common. These are the built in relay connections for your locks. The relay is controlled internally. You will notice there are also pin#'s (pin #'s that represent pins from a relay) Follow the suggestions from above keeping in mind those pin #'s.

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