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engine shuts down after remote start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: engine shuts down after remote start

Posted By: blackdragonpr
Subject: engine shuts down after remote start
Date Posted: January 27, 2008 at 11:09 AM

I'm having this problem with my installation. I have a 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix and installed a Autopage 727-LCD Remote Start Alarm. The system works well, except that when I remote start, it starts the engine and works as supposed, but then I press the brake to shift from park to drive WITH the key on the ignition and it shuts down. After 2 seconds all the panel lights come on (as when you put the key in and move it to acc) and then I have to crank the engine again to go. Does anybody have any suggestions on what could be causing this?



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Posted By: sparkie
Date Posted: January 27, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Have you checked all your connections? Have you installed any type of starter kill relay or ignition kill relay? You need to meter the main ignition harness wires and see if any are loosing power when you disengage the remote starter.

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Posted By: blackdragonpr
Date Posted: January 27, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Yes. I installed a starter kill relay. Could it be the position where the remote start wire is located? Should I connect it before or after the starter kill relay? I don't think it is a loosing power issue.




Posted By: blackdragonpr
Date Posted: January 27, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Correction. It is a ignition kill relay. Same question for this relay.




Posted By: wiretapper
Date Posted: January 27, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Your iginition kill circuit isn't turning the ign back ON fast enough after you hit the brake.

You might not be able to do it in that vehicle unless you can get the kill circuit to shut off faster, allowing the iginition to stay on.





Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: January 27, 2008 at 4:44 PM

I would strongly recommend you read this post here.

Starter kill is the way to go...ignition interrupt with a relay is not a good idea.



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Posted By: sparkie
Date Posted: January 27, 2008 at 7:33 PM
I agree with this suggestion. Use the relay for starter kill. The car already has a transponder system in the key so adding starter kill should be more than enough of a theft detterent. It is far safer too. Remember, Murphy's Law - Murphy was an optimist. The worst that will go wrong with a starter kill is that the car won't start. If the ignition circuit failed while you were driving, you could lose control of your car and cause an accident. You would be at fault.

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sparky




Posted By: blackdragonpr
Date Posted: January 28, 2008 at 6:20 PM
So, the solution will be eliminating the ignition kill relay and keep the starter kill relay? I installed the ignition kill relay because I thought it gives more challenge to the thief if he tries to carjack or steal my car.




Posted By: techman93
Date Posted: January 28, 2008 at 7:20 PM
The vehicle's OEM anti-theft will be more then enough to bypass. If you have insurance policy for theft then it would not be an issue. That is the reason for that insurance, not just for accidents. I also advise against ignition kill for the same fact as previously stated, if the relay were to fail while driving it would be disastrous on a roadway causing a potential fatal accident. You can do a fuel cut off if you are very experienced at installing or starter kill if you want a basic starter disable.

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Posted By: blackdragonpr
Date Posted: February 15, 2008 at 7:14 PM
OK. I'll try by eliminating the ignition kill and leaving only the starter kill. I think I understand now why it does not stay on with the key in. I'll try it and post back with the results.




Posted By: blackdragonpr
Date Posted: February 16, 2008 at 5:59 PM
Ok. Just finished working with my car. You were right. The ignition kill relay was the responsible for my problem with the remote start. Left only the starter kill and now it works perfectly. Thanks guys for all your help.





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