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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 10 chirps while arming?

Posted By: npb4me
Subject: 10 chirps while arming?
Date Posted: January 27, 2008 at 3:24 PM

I have a MT-3000 alarm on my Accord, and all of the sudden it chirps 10 times when I arm it.  Everything works fine, but it suddenly started this. Any ideas?



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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: January 27, 2008 at 7:17 PM

How long has it been in the car? Can you get it back to the installer....just to ask questions.

If you did it yourself, do you have the install guide? and user manual.



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Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 27, 2008 at 7:34 PM
I have all the manuals and have triple checked every connection and all the inputs.  It came with the car and was working great for months.  This just started last week. 




Posted By: StealthEs
Date Posted: January 27, 2008 at 10:27 PM
In the manual it should tell you what the chirps mean. Would mostly be the back of the install one.

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Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM

StealthEs wrote:

In the manual it should tell you what the chirps mean. Would mostly be the back of the install one.

It doesn't, I have reead both manuals 20 times.





Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 28, 2008 at 2:12 PM
have you had your battery replaced? The reason I ask is because their might have been some settings (like domelight delay bypass for instance) that might have been programed and since the battery is replaced, everything would be back to default. My alarm needs to be programmed to allow my domelight delay. If I dont have that programed, then when I arm my car, I have 2 chirps followed by another 4.




Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 28, 2008 at 2:21 PM

audioman2007 wrote:

have you had your battery replaced? The reason I ask is because their might have been some settings (like domelight delay bypass for instance) that might have been programed and since the battery is replaced, everything would be back to default. My alarm needs to be programmed to allow my domelight delay. If I dont have that programed, then when I arm my car, I have 2 chirps followed by another 4.

I had the battery disconnected when i was installing my power wire for an amp.  I'll go back through the programming and see if I can figure it out.  Thanks!!





Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 28, 2008 at 3:17 PM
your manual should have a programming section. In that section it will tell you how to program some features the alarm has. It will also give a chart of which features are default and which features can be changed and to what there after. Quick question. When you close your door, does your interior domelight stay lit for a short time afterwards or does it go out right as soon as the door closes? If the domelight stays lit for a short time after the door has been closed, do alittle test. First close your door BUT wait till your domelight turns off before arming your car. If the alarm doesnt chirp 10 times, than you found the problem.




Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 28, 2008 at 3:51 PM

audioman2007 wrote:

your manual should have a programming section. In that section it will tell you how to program some features the alarm has. It will also give a chart of which features are default and which features can be changed and to what there after. Quick question. When you close your door, does your interior domelight stay lit for a short time afterwards or does it go out right as soon as the door closes? If the domelight stays lit for a short time after the door has been closed, do alittle test. First close your door BUT wait till your domelight turns off before arming your car. If the alarm doesnt chirp 10 times, than you found the problem.

My dome light shuts off as soon as the door is closed. I even turned it off to check this.  I am going to check the programming tonight and see if there is anything in there.





Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 28, 2008 at 3:59 PM

Does your alarm have any sensors/ Most alarms come with atleast a shock sensor. Disconnect each sensor (if its not hard to do) and see if the chirps still happen.





Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 28, 2008 at 4:11 PM
audioman2007 wrote:

Does your alarm have any sensors/ Most alarms come with atleast a shock sensor. Disconnect each sensor (if its not hard to do) and see if the chirps still happen.


I disconnected the shock sensor, still chirped 10 times.  I also checked the hood pin and the dome light connections.  So far, eveything seems to be correct.  Now my remote start doesn't work either.  I am wondering if the connection to the parking brake has come loose.  Without this, the alarm thinks the parking brake isn't set.





Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 28, 2008 at 7:43 PM
That parking brake wire wont prevent your vehicle from remote starting. Thats just to disengage your RS. If the car wont remote start at all, its your hood pin switch. If its trying to crank, then its not your hood pin. If your hood pin is being grounded at all, your car wont RS. Check to make sure all your doors and trunk are closed. I know with my alarm, if i leave the trunk open and arm it, I will have more chirps letting me know something is opened. Another thing is to check all your connections.




Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 28, 2008 at 8:34 PM

audioman2007 wrote:

That parking brake wire wont prevent your vehicle from remote starting. Thats just to disengage your RS. If the car wont remote start at all, its your hood pin switch. If its trying to crank, then its not your hood pin. If your hood pin is being grounded at all, your car wont RS. Check to make sure all your doors and trunk are closed. I know with my alarm, if i leave the trunk open and arm it, I will have more chirps letting me know something is opened. Another thing is to check all your connections.

Well, I opened my hood, and pushed the hood pin down. Then I set the alarm, it chirped 10 times. I waited about 45 seconds and released the hood pin and my alarm went off.  So this tells me that the hood pin is working properly.  I also did this with the doors and trunk. I also unplugged the shock sensor, and it still chirped 10 times.   I'm stumped, not sure what my alarm is thinking.





Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 11:53 AM

Would installing different seats affect anything?  I had to wire the new seats in because they are electric and heated.  I used the wires already run to the seat area for power and ground, but I did have to splice into the driver side door switch.  Would this do anything wierd?





Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 2:00 PM

door switch as in door trigger?





Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Also, you said you needed to splice the seats into the door trigger. Please explane in full detail what exactly needed to be spliced into that wire  and for what reason




Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Yes, I had to grab the door trigger wire for the heated seats.  Not sure why, but my car didn't come with factory heated seats so i got the OEM wiring diagram from Honda and wired it up. 




Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Oh, and I unplugged the seat and the alarm still chirps 10 times, so I don't think it is the problem. 




Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 2:27 PM
well why did you have to splice into the door switch? And by door switch do you mean the switch that turns your domelight on when you open the door?




Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 2:30 PM
i didnt read your other post till now. So you had to splice the seats into your door trigger wire? There are a few things I need to know now. 1. How many seats are heated? 2. How many door trigger wires did you splice into? 3. Did you use any diodes in the process?




Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 2:34 PM
I only had to splice into the driver side door trigger wire, it was GREEN/ orange.  Both front seats are heated. I did not use a diode.  I grabbed the WHITE/ black wire up by the steering wheel for the domelight trigger for the alarm.  So the alarm and the seats are on different wires.  Other then that,  all the power for the heated seat switchs came from the cigarette lighter wire in the center console.  And the power for the light bulbs in the switchs comes off of the wires from the other lighted switchs.  Confused?




Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 2:44 PM

ok alittle confused.  You said you spliced only into driver side door trigger, correct? Youll need to use atleast 2 diodes there.

Then you said you used the white black wire for the domelight trigger?

Please explane alittle better.  sorry





Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Yes, I spliced into this wire were all the wiring run along the driver side of the car. 

In the '94 Accord, each switch is diode isolated from the other. If you tie into one of them, only that door will trip the alarm. The wire you need to tie into is the BLK/WHT wire that goes from the dome light to the safety indicator in the dash. Tying into this wire will ensure that opening any door will trip the alarm.





Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Yes, basically set up the way my car is. Doesnt matter which door is open for the domelight to come on. For this, I ran my door trigger wire to my domelight.  So let me get this straight... Your door trigger input wire on your alarm is spliced into the black white wire. Then you ran both seats negative trigger  to your driver side door trigger wire...  Am i correct on all this?




Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 3:01 PM
The oem wire diagram only shows the driver side seat needing a negative door trigger.  The passanger side only gets power and ground because it is not an electric seat, it is only heated.  Do you think it has something to do with the driverside seat and that door trigger wire?




Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 3:09 PM

Well it depends on when that wire is gettting the negative current through it. If there is negative through it during the times you arm your alarm, then thats your problem. Eventhough your door is closed, that negative wire from the seat is still sending current through that trigger wire. See when your door is opened, the switch pops out causing it to be grounded. That ground goes to wherever it has to go to trigger your domelight to come on. That in turn would set your alarm off. But in this case, since your door isnt opened the switch cant pop out and your dome light wont turn on BUT you are still getting negative current through that door trigger (since there are no diodes being used for the seats) thus causing your alarm to "think" a door is opened. Now there are some tests you can try. First leave your door opened, or leave your domelight on and arm it. If your alarm still chirps 10 times, then disconnect your trigger wire that you have spliced into your domelight. If it still chirps, than you know its not your seats. If it stops, then you need to put in some diodes.





Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 3:13 PM
I unplugged my seat, and it still chirped 10 times.  Wouldn't unplugging my seat not send a negative current through that wire?  Man this alarm is screwy.




Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Just try leaving your domelight on,close the door and arm it. Then if nothing changes remove your trigger wire that goes to the domelight (from your alarm) and see what happens then




Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 3:20 PM
or disconnect that negative wire from your seat that goes to the door switch  and try arming it then




Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Okay, I will try what you suggest tonight when i get home.  Thanks man!!




Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: January 30, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Okay. I tried everything. No matter what I do, the stupid alarm chirps 10 times when I arm it, and the lights flash once.  I even pulled every fuse I could, nothing changed.  I think this alarm is just a POS. 




Posted By: npb4me
Date Posted: February 08, 2008 at 9:31 AM
I fixed it. It was the wire going to the parking brake. The alarm needs a ground signal from the parking brake so it knows that the car is in nuetral for remote starting.





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