to the pro’s, what system do you have?
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Topic: to the pro’s, what system do you have?
Posted By: StealthEs
Subject: to the pro’s, what system do you have?
Date Posted: January 31, 2008 at 10:53 AM
I currently have the Compustar Pro P2WSS-AS with the Idatalink ADSALCA and ADS-RNG-C1 for bypass. Just upgraded to this unit from what in my eyes is the junk Viper791XVL. The reason I call it junk is since it doesn't do the range it advertises. Also I would go through a new battery in a week.
So, whats everyone else rocking?
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Cris
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Posted By: luckytii7
Date Posted: January 31, 2008 at 12:28 PM
i wouldnt call myself a pro yet but i have a few hundred starters under my belt. i learn something new everyday. i use compustar and love them. i only use pro units but i dont think theres much of a diff. i know what you mean about the viper, i have a lumina with the same model and its junk, my cheapest one way out proforms the viper by far in the range. if you use the backlight on the remote and the vibrate it will eat batteries like crazy. a few problems ive found with the compustar is ppl putting it into passive arming or valet mode and on the 1wsh remotes the battery tabs break and short out the battery if the owner is hard on them (fix this with a wad of dynamat rubber on the back of the battery clip). as far as bypasses i use the one that suits me best for the job. i do alot of new fords so i use the hide-a-key trick and havent had a problem in the cold (careful where you get the key)
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Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: January 31, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Scytek Galaxy 2000RS-2W-1 with a 555L in my Saturn - nothing connected except the RS. The 2-way remote on Scyteks is simple, relatively affordable, and doesn't consume inordinate amounts of battery power - maybe 3 replacement batteries in the year I've had it.
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C Renner's Auto Electronix
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Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 31, 2008 at 5:29 PM
companies that i have used over the years 1)scytek
2)compustar
3)DEI
4)autopage
5)JBS Technologies (bulldog)
6)audiovox heres my intake on the units. Scytek, very cheap and durable unit for its price. it performs really well, good battery life and it does do the advertized range about 2500ft paging. the only issue with this is the unit is very chunky in size and the remotes have a very cheap feel and look to them. Compustar, the best unit i have ever used. has all features taht you can think of and with passive arm, RPS knock pad, nice ergonomic control that is very stylish and amazing on battery life. The rage is superb and i ONLY use the pro versions. installed the normal 2w900fm - as, but they are nothing compared to the Pro series. Also, compustart understands that people do drive manual cars and offer tranny specific models for those manual cars. A reservation mode must be entered to allow the car to start and it ensures the vehicle is not in gear. - smart thinking compustar ! DEI, very well known and trusted for their units and tech support (authorized dealers only). they have up to date wiring charts which is nice. they are known as the high end alarm systems. you might have heard of Viper, Clifford, Avital, Astrostart etc. they are all one company and each unit is just branded differantly. THey have nice remotes, lifetime on relay packs and brains which is nice. Too bad they dont offer a manual safe unit for any car. because of compustars manual safe start systems, DEI made the 689m. a NEUTRAL SAFETY SYSTEM, where the user must enter a reservation mode just like compustar systems, but it means you have to spend more money. the paging on the units are delayed up to 10 seconds on some units. the advertized range is kinda BOASTED for what those units can really do. the ease of use would be a 10/10. Autopage, super micro remotes take up no room in your pockets at all. Buttons are sometimes a PIA to get to if you got big ass fingers. Screen quality is very good, high res and real time paging just like compustar. the unit is fairly small, they offer all features that other units would offer except the manual safe tranny, unless they have somthing new. btw i dont really use autopage anymore so not really updated with their products so bare with me. range on these are superb. tech support is very good. JBS Technologies (bulldog), super cheap units, i guess its reliable, range sucks, but hey it does the job for under 150 for a paging system. and they offer manual safe units ! btw they went bankrupt for a while so their tech support sucks balls. the guy that is talkin to you wants you off the phone. Audiovox - older audiovox units are very dependable and very easy to install and use. these units are comparable to scytek. Unless you have the new CODE ALARM OLED pager, that is just as good as the compustars base line, if not better ! well thats all i have to say and hope you learned something. one day im goin to do a full review on the units i have used and installed. BTW, i use a compustar P2W900FM - AS
Posted By: StealthEs
Date Posted: January 31, 2008 at 5:53 PM
I do have to say that from the unit I've used and installed ( DEI, Black Widow, Audivox, Compustar ) the Compustars have been by far the best.
We recently started carry Compustar at work and are a Pro dealer. I really like the remote for the P2W900, but wanted the range of the 2WSS.
Overall that remote is a bit bigger then the Viper so its not so bad.
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Cris
Posted By: hydroz_23
Date Posted: January 31, 2008 at 6:21 PM
wow! i cant believe you just compared a audiovox with a scyteck. no comparison. audiovox is not the best system but much much better than a scytek tedmond wrote:
companies that i have used over the years 1)scytek
2)compustar
3)DEI
4)autopage
5)JBS Technologies (bulldog)
6)audiovox heres my intake on the units. Scytek, very cheap and durable unit for its price. it performs really well, good battery life and it does do the advertized range about 2500ft paging. the only issue with this is the unit is very chunky in size and the remotes have a very cheap feel and look to them. Compustar, the best unit i have ever used. has all features taht you can think of and with passive arm, RPS knock pad, nice ergonomic control that is very stylish and amazing on battery life. The rage is superb and i ONLY use the pro versions. installed the normal 2w900fm - as, but they are nothing compared to the Pro series. Also, compustart understands that people do drive manual cars and offer tranny specific models for those manual cars. A reservation mode must be entered to allow the car to start and it ensures the vehicle is not in gear. - smart thinking compustar ! DEI, very well known and trusted for their units and tech support (authorized dealers only). they have up to date wiring charts which is nice. they are known as the high end alarm systems. you might have heard of Viper, Clifford, Avital, Astrostart etc. they are all one company and each unit is just branded differantly. THey have nice remotes, lifetime on relay packs and brains which is nice. Too bad they dont offer a manual safe unit for any car. because of compustars manual safe start systems, DEI made the 689m. a NEUTRAL SAFETY SYSTEM, where the user must enter a reservation mode just like compustar systems, but it means you have to spend more money. the paging on the units are delayed up to 10 seconds on some units. the advertized range is kinda BOASTED for what those units can really do. the ease of use would be a 10/10. Autopage, super micro remotes take up no room in your pockets at all. Buttons are sometimes a PIA to get to if you got big ass fingers. Screen quality is very good, high res and real time paging just like compustar. the unit is fairly small, they offer all features that other units would offer except the manual safe tranny, unless they have somthing new. btw i dont really use autopage anymore so not really updated with their products so bare with me. range on these are superb. tech support is very good. JBS Technologies (bulldog), super cheap units, i guess its reliable, range sucks, but hey it does the job for under 150 for a paging system. and they offer manual safe units ! btw they went bankrupt for a while so their tech support sucks balls. the guy that is talkin to you wants you off the phone. Audiovox - older audiovox units are very dependable and very easy to install and use. these units are comparable to scytek. Unless you have the new CODE ALARM OLED pager, that is just as good as the compustars base line, if not better ! well thats all i have to say and hope you learned something. one day im goin to do a full review on the units i have used and installed. BTW, i use a compustar P2W900FM - AS
Posted By: StealthEs
Date Posted: January 31, 2008 at 6:23 PM
hydroz_23 wrote:
wow! i cant believe you just compared a audiovox with a scyteck. no comparison. audiovox is not the best system but much much better than a scytek
I don't think hes comparing just stating the different systems he has used. ------------- Cris
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 31, 2008 at 7:17 PM
gee, if you read, "older audiovox units are very dependable and very easy to install and use. these units are comparable to scytek" im sure i did mention OLDER
Posted By: brhaugen
Date Posted: February 01, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Audiovox's manuals are not the easiest to understand- and they are a PITA to program. But their quality is good. I installed them exclusively for 4 years. I continue to install them occasion.
I have installed Clarion Ungo that is made for them by DEI (Valet) and there quality is good, I have replaced a few remotes, however. DEI's AutoCommand and ReadyRemote (DIY) models junk (what do you expect) but they do work.
I have installed 2 Scytek units (one in my wife's car) and I have no complaints.
I am predominately installing Ultrastarters and have had a few remote issues but the installs are slick and they have models for manual transmissions, and models with 1 mile range that DO GO a mile (tested myself).
As for my car, when I bought it 6 years ago I had an old ON_START OS3000+ sitting on the shelf from 1998 so I installed it. It still works but the range sucks. (If anyone has an install manual form one of these things, please let me know.....)
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: February 02, 2008 at 2:45 AM
In my car I have a Clifford Solaris 5. I really want to upgrade it to a Compustar 2-way, but that means replacing both window modules which is expensive. At work we mainly do Panther for the cheap alarms and Compustar for the expensive one's.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 02, 2008 at 6:50 AM
how come you got to switch up the window modules? dont they just require a ground input and then the windows will rool up or down?
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: February 02, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Viper & Clifford exclusively.....
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: February 02, 2008 at 10:59 AM
tedmond wrote:
how come you got to switch up the window modules? dont they just require a ground input and then the windows will rool up or down?
They are the Clifford Smart Windows 4 left over from the original Ace 7500 install. They use Cliffords Cliff-net databus system instead of standard ground inputs.
Posted By: jaybizz
Date Posted: February 02, 2008 at 2:24 PM
i currently have the new prestige xr9000(i love it). also i have the ascl100 telematics piece that can lock, unlock, shut down the car, locate the car and remote start with my cell phone(the car can be anywhere in the country). it plugs right into the brain. also i have 3 530t window rollup modules for all 4 windows and the sunroof. i also have a 508d motion sensor and 2 scanners. also i used a 4 relay cut off system which involves the parking brake, foot brake and a button on the steering wheel to start the car with the key(with this a theif could unplug the alarm brain, which in my car would be hard considering the fact the brain is behind the radio, and the car still wouldn't be able to start). under the hood i have 3 sets of air horns and everything independently fused with distribution and fuse blocks. everyone who see's under the hood thinks i have a jiggy music system but in fact that's all for the alarm. the music is next!!!!
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alarm king
Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: February 02, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Since alot of people are posting in here, I thought I would ask a question. What is the most reliable brand of these sensors: glass break, tilt, and microwave. I have a scytek alarm and was wondering what you all think of their sensors?
Posted By: jaybizz
Date Posted: February 02, 2008 at 2:43 PM
i have the new prestige xr9000(love it). also i got the ascl100 telematics piece that lock, unlocks, shuts down the car, locates the car and remote starts the car with my cell phone(the car can be anywhere in the country). also i have 3 530t window rollup modules for the 4 windows and the sunroof. i also got a 508d motion sensor with 2 scanners. i also have a 4 relay cut off system which involves the emergency brake, foot brake and a button on the steering wheel to start the car with the key(a theif can unplug the brain, in which my car would be hard because the brain is behind the radio, and the car still wouldn't be able to start). under the hood i have 3 sets of airhorns and i have everything individualy fused with distribution and fuse blocks. everyone who looks under mu hood thinks i have a jiggy music system but in fact everything is for the alarm. the music is next!!!!!
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alarm king
Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: February 02, 2008 at 4:27 PM
That is sweet. How much did the unit cost? Also what is needed to program so you can use your cell phone and remote start wherever?
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 02, 2008 at 8:59 PM
its not really programming, you gotta buy the unit.
Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: February 02, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Yea but you obviously need to do something in order to get your cell to work with it correct?
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: February 02, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Astro 2205 2 way, OM-Honda 6 bypass (astro) Added a solenoid for trunk pop. Aux out's for rear defrost programmed for 8 min. And high beams triggered programmed for 8 min. Good rock solid product, in a rock solid 06 Civic. -------------
Posted By: jaybizz
Date Posted: February 04, 2008 at 7:13 PM
what u gotta do is but the ascl100 for $140 and then fax in the form to audiovox. it takes up to 24 hours to activate and the first 3 years are free. when activated u just call the 800 number and follow the voice prompts. u have to have a prestige or audiovox alarm that is compatible with the ascl 100(the 996a and up will work with it). any more questions just holla back
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alarm king
Posted By: swerks
Date Posted: February 04, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Astrostart 2205 with alarm the most reliable starter ever
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Steve Sverdahl
Swerksound Auto Electric
Red Deer Alberta
Posted By: lgrammer
Date Posted: February 04, 2008 at 11:15 PM
hands down ultra start is my fav and second would be autostart
both awsome work great and installer friendly
Posted By: dswift
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 6:53 PM
COMPUSTAR P2WSS-AS
No RPS but with 2 blue led in my A pillars
CompuTRACK CT-401
Keyless
CAR: 1996 Integra GSR manual as LIL JOHN would say! YAYYYYAHHHH !!!! ------------- "dont ground out!"
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 06, 2008 at 7:32 AM
dswift wrote:
COMPUSTAR P2WSS-AS
No RPS but with 2 blue led in my A pillars
CompuTRACK CT-401
Keyless
CAR: 1996 Integra GSR manual as LIL JOHN would say! YAYYYYAHHHH !!!!
A WHATTTTTT !!!! you lucky man, you live in the states and have the P2WSSR-AS. here in canada we dont got that yet. i want to get one of those once it hits the canadian market.
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