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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=101920
Printed Date: April 26, 2024 at 1:35 PM


Topic: domelight, horn and trigger

Posted By: dj_lawz
Subject: domelight, horn and trigger
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 9:21 PM

ok i'm installing a viper alarm 5900 on a 2000 lincoln town car, i'm having some problems with it, first problem is my horn is not working next problem is domelight supervision wire and trigger....

ok here is how i got it wired

horn........................

85 (-)wire from alarm

86 (+) 12v

30 (-) horn wire

87 (-)ground

domelight ......................

85 (-)domelight supervision wire from alarm

86(+)12

30(+)domelight wire

87(+)12v

also the alarm does not activate by itself it only activates when i use the remote

any help is greatly appreciated

btw if this is posted twice is because i posted it one time and it didn't show up




Replies:

Posted By: chadwa2003
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 9:38 PM
The horn isn't working when and what wire in the car did you use for domelight supervision




Posted By: dj_lawz
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 9:49 PM

chadwa2003 wrote:

The horn isn't working when and what wire in the car did you use for domelight supervision

ok horn is not working at all not even when i activate alarm

and i'm using the wire on the uderdash light drivers side can't remember the color blue black i think

my other problem is the alarm not arming by itself





Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Do you have the alarm programed for passive arming? Is the horn working any other time? If your horn isnt working period, then you have the relay wired up wrong. This is how my alarm manual says to run the relays for domelight and horn.... Both of these work on my car so I know these setups are correct.....

Horn:  pin 86 goes to - horn output                                                                        

        pin 87 goes to horn wire

        pin 85 goes to a constant 12V+

        pin 30 gets grounded

Make sure your horn wire is actually negative polarity.  If it is positive then change pin 30 from ground to constant 12V+ also.

Domelight:

           pin 86 goes to - domelight output

           pin 87 goes to domelight wire

           pins 30 and 85 go to a constant 12V+





Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Also you said your alarm doesnt activate? What do you mean? Meaning if you arm it and open your car, the alarm doesnt trigger?




Posted By: dj_lawz
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 10:34 PM

audioman2007 wrote:

Also you said your alarm doesnt activate? What do you mean? Meaning if you arm it and open your car, the alarm doesnt trigger?

ok yeah i have my wiring done wrong..............i'm going to wire it like you have it....

oh and the alarm does trigger when i open the door, hood, etc.  but what i mean is that it doesn't arm by itself  i think i have to program it for passive arming or something like that the thing is that i don't know how to do that.





Posted By: chadwa2003
Date Posted: February 06, 2008 at 8:18 AM
You could have the system in valet mode and that is why the alarm isn't getting triggered. Also the horn should only get activated when the alarm gets fully triggered it shouldn't honk on lock and unlock




Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: February 06, 2008 at 2:15 PM
True but with some alarms, you can program the alarm to honk the horn when arming and disarming.  Look in your manual and it will tell you how to program certain features. With my alarm I have to turn the ignition on and press my "call" button 5 times to enter programing. I have a guide then that has like 25 features that can be programed. If I need to change something numbered 5 on the list, then I press my "call" button 5 times. Then I have to press button 1, 2 or 3 that corresponds with what I need to program. All alarms are different though so just read your manual. If you dont have a manual, simply tell us the alarm system make and someone on here will help you.




Posted By: dj_lawz
Date Posted: February 06, 2008 at 9:16 PM

chadwa2003 wrote:

You could have the system in valet mode and that is why the alarm isn't getting triggered. Also the horn should only get activated when the alarm gets fully triggered it shouldn't honk on lock and unlock

valet mode? yeah never tought about that.... maybe it is in valet, anyway i got the domelight supervision working but still can't get the horn to work, its connected right  i don't know what to do now i think i'm just gonna leave it like that, oh and one more question when i arm the alarm and i turn the engine on with the remote, and someone opens the door isn't suppose to page?    because it doesn't it only tells me when i push the "lock" button...





Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: February 07, 2008 at 2:30 PM
If your system is armed and remote started, if you were to unlock the door using the key and open the door, your alarm will trigger and the vehicle will shut off. If you have a 2 way remote, it should page you. The only time when it wont page you is if you dont have your car armed and then remote start it. Eventhough your alarm is not armed, your doors will still lock everytime the vehicle is remote started. But if you were to then unlock the door using the key, the system wont trigger, the vehicle wont shut off and you wont get a page.




Posted By: dj_lawz
Date Posted: February 08, 2008 at 8:19 PM

well, i solved all my problemsposted_image except for the hornposted_image now i want to install a power window module, do you think i should go with one that does all 4 windows up... or get two and get windows up and down??





Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: February 08, 2008 at 8:42 PM
You probably dont have your alarm programed for horn honk.




Posted By: 12voltexpert
Date Posted: February 08, 2008 at 9:20 PM
How did you set up the relay for the domelight supervision. I'm having a problem with a customer's car not working.




Posted By: dj_lawz
Date Posted: February 08, 2008 at 9:49 PM

12voltexpert wrote:

How did you set up the relay for the domelight supervision. I'm having a problem with a customer's car not working.

pin 86 goes to - domelight output

           pin 87 goes to domelight wire

           pins 30 and 85 go to a constant 12V+

this is how "audioman2007" told me to do it and it worked on my carposted_image





Posted By: dj_lawz
Date Posted: February 08, 2008 at 10:04 PM
i just found out how to program the horn, i need a Bitwriter Programming Tool, do i have to buy it, or can i just go to car audio shop and have them just program the alarm for me?




Posted By: dj_lawz
Date Posted: February 10, 2008 at 8:35 PM

hey check this out.......i installed my alarm about a week ago, everything was going great, but now i'm beggining to have some problems with it.

first is my seatbelt alert won't work anymore the seatbelt light stays on and then goes off for a minute or two and then turns on again and stays on for the rest of the drive.

next is the "chyme"? that alerts you of your fuel level going down doesn't work anymore, but the chyme still works when you leave the key in the ignition when you turn off the car and open a door

can anyone tell me how to solve this problem please......






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