Ford/Mazda Xponder keys
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Printed Date: May 14, 2025 at 8:17 PM
Topic: Ford/Mazda Xponder keys
Posted By: NismaX
Subject: Ford/Mazda Xponder keys
Date Posted: February 28, 2003 at 7:36 AM
I was just told by the local Mazda dealership that if a key not programmed for the vehicle is used to start the vehicle 4 times the vehicle will go into a "lock down" mode. If this is true is it a time out thing like wait a half hour with the key on or a trip to the dealership on a tow truck. I wasn't aware of this type of problem. In all the starters I have done on Fords this has never happened. But, if it does I want to know what to expect. Has this instance ever happened to anybody else? Or is the dealer full of crap.
Thanks!
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Jon
Replies:
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: February 28, 2003 at 9:24 AM
Yes this is true. I am not sure of the exact details, but it happened to a friend of mine once when he was trying to program a new key. I am not exatly sure what he did wrong, but he couldnt get the key to program, and eventually none of the keys worked. He just waited a while and the keys finally worked, then he programmed the additional key no problem. I think you would really have to have bad luck to need a tow. I would say that the worst case scenario would be just a time out. I dont think you need to leave the ignition on for the timeout though.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: Haku
Date Posted: February 28, 2003 at 9:39 AM
What year and model, what you were told was somewhat true for most newer Fords. A key that is not programmed will not start the vehicle. As Jrilla's friend has found, it takes a few minutes, not thirty. I have done it several times. It you attempt to start it (dont know how many times) it does go in lock down mode. Last one that did it to me was a 1999 Ford F-150. After lock down it took three minutes for the key to work again. ------------- Hak
Siemens Autostart
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: February 28, 2003 at 9:43 AM
Yeah my friends was a 99 F-150. I think his lock down may have been longer than three minutes, but I cant remember, he really didint keep track of the time.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: Haku
Date Posted: February 28, 2003 at 9:49 AM
Funny story on that F-150. Wasnt for a Remote start. Was towed into my shop for a no-start, the owner claimed that the starter had gone bad, and wanted us to replace it. Right away we knew it was the security, (theft light was on) He brought us seven keys, no kidding... he has a problem with locking his keys in the truck, so he went down to the local Checker auto parts and had them match up the keys, and had them cut five of them. So he could place them in his other cars, buisness ect...
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Hak
Siemens Autostart
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: February 28, 2003 at 10:40 AM
lol, how many keys can the system learn?
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: Haku
Date Posted: February 28, 2003 at 1:55 PM
That was the problem, they were standard keys, without the transponder in them. But as for your question, I think its five. May change model to model. ------------- Hak
Siemens Autostart
Posted By: NismaX
Date Posted: February 28, 2003 at 2:43 PM
Thanks for the input guys. This vehicle is an '03 Mazda Tribute. I think the service guy is just trying to give me a hard time. He is kind of a jerk to me. I didn't think that the vehicle would do a lock out like that it just doesn't make sense. I didn't have any problem doing the autostarter anyway it was very straight forward.
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Jon
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