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remote starters and carburetors?

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: remote starters and carburetors?

Posted By: turboneon
Subject: remote starters and carburetors?
Date Posted: February 15, 2008 at 10:01 PM

I have recently met a guy that has a shop with customers that still drive carbureted cars. He has asked me about putting remote starters on them. I have never even thought about what would need to be done in order to pump the gas before starting. I know some kind of solenoid will be needed.

In the 2 posts I find here back from '02 and '03 mentioned a piece by Autocommand that I can't seem to find info on, and that Astroflex used to have special outputs for doing this.

Anyone have any current or very specific info on how to do this, or where to aquire the parts?



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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: February 15, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Astro is a cool product. But all the outputs in the world won't set a choke on a carb without some type of mechanical device.

The programable outputs on the Astro could be used to send a pulse to your solenoid.... very "do-able"

Aux 1 can be programmed for a 1 second pulse. Trigger this a few times prior to R/S. posted_image



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Posted By: turboneon
Date Posted: February 15, 2008 at 10:20 PM
KarTuneMan wrote:

Astro is a cool product. But all the outputs in the world won't set a choke on a carb without some type of mechanical device.





Correct, but I was thinking it may have had a multi-pulse output to simulate pumping a couple times. The Scyteks also have the programable pulse outputs.

Anyway to make that a multi pulse output, kinda like a double pulse unlock? I won't be able to use the unlock wire as I'm sure some of the cars will have power locks.

Also, any info on how to actually mount the solenoids?




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: February 16, 2008 at 12:15 AM

Thge programable outputs cannot be programmed for a double pulse. posted_image

You might simply need to activate it more than once.

Fabricating a bracket to bolt to the manifold shouldn't really be too big of a task.

I have only seen it done, never done this myself. Getting things in proper alignment is key. Like an actuator in a door.

Less stress on the whole package..



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Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: February 16, 2008 at 12:43 AM
ive done one i used a trunk popper to pulled back on cable, just use an aux ch. i live in florida so i was not worried about colder areas. also make sure car is in good running order lot times dont need to use gas to much to start car. only had to hit aux ch 2-3 times




Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: February 16, 2008 at 10:43 PM
i dont know much about the astro starters, but with the DEI's, you could use the factory disarm wire (programmed as double pulse) to activate the solenoid on the throttle cable. I dont know if it would work or not b/c the pulses are so short, but this would allow the starter to pulse the solenoid twice just before starting.
Just an idea.

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205




Posted By: mobile1
Date Posted: February 18, 2008 at 12:27 AM
offroadzj wrote:

i dont know much about the astro starters, but with the DEI's, you could use the factory disarm wire (programmed as double pulse) to activate the solenoid on the throttle cable. I dont know if it would work or not b/c the pulses are so short, but this would allow the starter to pulse the solenoid twice just before starting.
Just an idea.


And every time you remote start it, then unlock your doors, the car will rev the engine.posted_image





Posted By: sparkie
Date Posted: February 18, 2008 at 6:39 PM
I used to do a lot of carbureted cars back in the day. Heck, back when I started installing remote starters only a few cars were fuel injected. If the car won't start with one pulse on the throttle before cranking, then I suggest you not do it. Have the car tuned up first, otherwise it will be back all the time for problems. You need a strong solenoid to pull the throttle back far enough to set the choke. A power trunk solenoid should have enough power to do the job. Remember it will require about 10 amps of power for most of these units. Be careful in hooking up to the throttle so that it doesn't cause any safety issues while driving like causing the throttle to jam. Many remote starters have an ouput which will pulse prior to remote start. This will work to activate a relay to power the solenoid. You could also use an aux output to activate the relay prior to starting. In this manner, you can also give the throttle another pulse any time needed. You can use it to set the carb into low idle after it warms up.

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sparky




Posted By: turboneon
Date Posted: February 18, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Thanks for all the info.





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