99 durango, crank but wont start
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 99 durango, crank but wont start
Posted By: khfinlay
Subject: 99 durango, crank but wont start
Date Posted: March 29, 2008 at 10:37 PM
I have a 99 Dodge durango I just instaled a HT-800E 2-way remote starter/alarm. I am stumped because I can only get the vehicle to crank but it does not start. I know it is not the crank time because i tried increasing it to 2.1 seconds and still the same thing. If I try using the key it starts in about 0.5 second. The diagram on this site https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/alarmdetail/710.html says there are 2 ignition wires but another site tells me there is one. Diagram on 12volt also says there are 2 BLACK/ orange wires but I only see 1. I think my problem could be either some sort of immobiliser that needs to be bypassed or an ignition or ACC wire that is not being energized. Based on what I read I have a black key that was copied at Home Depot but key had 19R1 written on it so I am not sure if there is an immobilizer. I am baffled. ------------- khfinlay@gmail.com
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Posted By: techman93
Date Posted: March 30, 2008 at 3:03 AM
Battery PINK/BLACK (+) OR RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 1 DARK BLUE (+) IGNITION HARNESS
Ignition 2 BLACK/ ORANGE (+) IGNITION HARNESS (HEAT/A.C.)
Starter 1 YELLOW (+) IGNITION HARNESS
Anti-Theft Descript NONE
Key Sense LIGHT BLUE (-) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Neutral Safety YELLOW (-) LOWER LEFT OF DASH 16 PIN CONN POS 3
Tachometer BLACK/ GRAY (AC) COIL PASS FRT ENG OR PCM FRT WASH FLUID
Speed Sense WHITE/ ORANGE (AC) PIN 27 AT ECM PASS. SIDE FRT. FENDER
Parking Lights BLACK / YELLOW (+) 18 PIN CONN POS 1 HEADLIGHT SWITCH
Brake Lights WHITE/ TAN (+) AT BRAKE SWITCH
Reverse Lights VIOLET/BLACK (+) DRIV SIDE OF TRANS
Horn BLACK/ RED (-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Power Unlock PINK/VIOLET (REV) POS 13 POS(+)IF KEYLESS: REV IF NOT KEYL (REV) ON MODELS WITHOUT KEYLESS
Power Lock ORANGE / VIOLET (REV) 18 PIN CONN POS 4 MODULE RIGHT OF DASH
------------- The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
Do it right the first time... or I might have to fix it for ya
Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: March 30, 2008 at 7:06 AM
The only guess I can think of is either the wrong ignition wire, or the ignition and accessory wires are reversed.
If it has a Home Depot key, then it shouldn't have a transponder. The head of the key isn't gray, is it?
I'm trying to think of what I remember about those trucks.
It should successfully remote start with only the blue ignition wire, and the yellow starter wire.
The BLACK/ orange accessory wire is for the climate controls. There's another accessory wire (probably BLACK/ white, not listed on the above chart) that turns on the radio, power windows, and so forth.
The radio-accessory wire is entirely unnecessary for remote start. And, even if you failed to power up the BLACK/ orange, the remote starter would still work, you just wouldn't have heat/AC.
I would say either you've got the blue and the BLACK/ orange backwards, or for some other reason, the blue ignition wire isn't getting powered up properly.
Put your tester on the car's blue wire, activate the remote start, and make sure it gets power not only when the remote starter turns on, but also during cranking.
It couldn't hurt to temporarily reprogram your unit for voltage sensing, in case you have the wrong tach wire.
Posted By: khfinlay
Date Posted: March 30, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Chris Luano, "you Da man". I had the blue ignition wire connected to the ACC. Went outside this morning checked the wiring, switched the 2 and voila enging started on first try. I am using the "non-common" wire from my fuel injector for the Tach wire. It reads the same on a multimeter as the coil but a lot closer, than the coil and the PCM. The engine does not re-crank after starting so I guess I am good with that tach wire. I also read a couple posts that said it is ok to ground the neutral sense wire. My manual says to connect to the parking brake switch which is grounded when depressed but my GF never remembers to put the parking brake on (i also cannot find the yellow wire for the neutral safety but I will take another look). I read the engine should not be ble to start if not in neutral or park anyway.
------------- khfinlay@gmail.com
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