wire terminals
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=103873
Printed Date: May 08, 2025 at 9:30 PM
Topic: wire terminals
Posted By: Komobu
Subject: wire terminals
Date Posted: April 10, 2008 at 6:02 AM
Hi;
I am looking to buy some clamp on wire terminals in bulk. I am looking for the type that clamps on a wire and allows you to plug in a second wire to like used when installing an aftermarket remote starter. Our shop is starting to do installs and I would like to be able to buy these in bulk. Please provide the name of any vendors if known and what is the proper terminology of these connectors.
Thanks
Pat
Replies:
Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: April 10, 2008 at 6:22 AM
You are talking about T-Taps. My opinion is that you should be soldering all of your connections and not using them. Some people swear by them, I just don't trust them for long term reliability.
Here are two of companies that I use:
www.trc12volt.com
www.installationproducts.com
You have to be a retailer to set up an account, and get discount pricing. They both offer a lot more than just connectors.
------------- Installer, IT support, and FFL. I need less hobbies.
Posted By: Komobu
Date Posted: April 10, 2008 at 6:29 AM
Thanks for the extremely fast response!!! I Love this site! 
Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: April 10, 2008 at 6:32 AM
I'll fire any of my installers using T taps. If you don't want to solder(which is fine) use a crimp connectors...
------------- Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Posted By: brcidd
Date Posted: April 10, 2008 at 8:07 AM
I'll be debugging your install inabout 3 yrs if you use T-taps-- you should asking where to buy your solder in bulk- not T-taps-- every seen T-taps under the vehicle in the trailer connector wires? - what a joke- corrosion and T-taps- my favorite combination--- they sure work great for a few weeks---but just wait until you need to tow something when you are in a hurry........
------------- Brcidd - Engineer That Does Remote Starter Installs on the side.
Posted By: jeffwhiteman
Date Posted: April 10, 2008 at 8:17 AM
I gotta be honest. I have been doing business since 2000. I totally agree with brcidd. T taps and the elements dont mix. I do, however; think there is a place for them. If you use the appropriate size and keep your connections up high (away from the floor moisture etc...) you wont have a problem. Oh ya, dont use the cheap ones. Very rarely will I have a job come back because of bad wiring. When it does happen, its usually my fault and not the connectors.
Posted By: chillin420
Date Posted: April 10, 2008 at 12:30 PM
where is everyone from.. i live in cali and have no problems with my t tap connections. i am not sure if it is the wearther out here or what but i havent had any corrosive ones at all.. and never had any issues with them coming undone.
------------- you can do it....
advanced MECP, lol does it really matter....
patience is a virtue
Posted By: Komobu
Date Posted: April 10, 2008 at 1:08 PM
I like T-Taps for the wiring under the dash. I dont like cutting wires and then splicing them back together. As far as corrosion goes, I installed a remote starter on my wifes 98 Camry...when it was new in Oct 97 and have never had a problem with any of the connections. That being said, I would not want to use them for trailer connections or any exterior connections.
Pat
Posted By: brcidd
Date Posted: April 10, 2008 at 2:00 PM
So who cuts the wires??? I don't- I peel back and wrap and solder the new wire into place-- I don't like the idea of cutting either.....
------------- Brcidd - Engineer That Does Remote Starter Installs on the side.
Posted By: Komobu
Date Posted: April 10, 2008 at 5:52 PM
What do you use for peeling them back? I use wire strippers and rotate two cuts about 3/8 inch apart. Then I use a razor knife to connect the two cuts, allowing me to peel a 3/8s piece of insulation off. I am wondering if a tool is available to do this for me faster and neater.
Thanks
Posted By: techman93
Date Posted: April 10, 2008 at 6:40 PM
I thought about a tool that would do that but it would need to be made. I have a vision of what it should do but as far as inventing the tool, I don't have a clue on who would manufacture it. It may not be a high demand item but in our field it would come in handy on a regular basis.
The only wire you ever cut is the starter wire for anti-grind or starter disable. Even then you solder them or use an appropriate butt connector for the size wire. Normally yellow work fine for that unless the starter wire is a tad thinner then the blue size will work. I strip wire with utility knife and stripper. I do as stated in previous post and place stripper and clamp down and rotate slightly and go over about 3/4 inch and do the same. Take the knife and remove then I place knife lengthwise to wire and push through then give a twist to open middle of wire. It makes it look like a needle thread hole and I insert wire through and then twist around. It makes it much more resistant to being pulled apart if you don't solder, but I solder it anyways in the same fashion.
As far as T-Taps are concerned, I dislike them and any installer too lazy to do the right job. Especially on high current connections, I solder most of the time. The other times twist and tape, but not by choice mind you so please don't say anything. My boss likes to rush stuff and tells me to just get it done and twist and tape is fine. I know better and have been in the install field since 1994 and only used a few T-Taps and then smartened up. They can cause problems in the long run and I don't want to be the cause of a car fire due to connection arching creating enough heat to melt the insulation off the wire resulting in possible harm to someone in that vehicle.
If your shop owner is short term thinker then I would seriously think about his work ethics and morals. I also would have to say I have redone quite a few jobs done with T-Taps so you can do what you do and the installers who do a good job like myself will have to keep repairing them.  ------------- The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
Do it right the first time... or I might have to fix it for ya
Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: April 10, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Komobu wrote:
What do you use for peeling them back? I use wire strippers and rotate two cuts about 3/8 inch apart. Then I use a razor knife to connect the two cuts, allowing me to peel a 3/8s piece of insulation off. I am wondering if a tool is available to do this for me faster and neater.
Thanks
I do the same thing - two cuts about 3/8" apart. But, I don't use a razor knife to cut the insulation, I just grab it with the pliars on the end of the stripper and pull. The insulation will come off pretty easy - same effect but much faster then using the razor knife. ------------- Kevin Pierson
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