2008 honda civic si, python 871 xp alarm
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=104207
Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 7:55 PM
Topic: 2008 honda civic si, python 871 xp alarm
Posted By: sicivic13
Subject: 2008 honda civic si, python 871 xp alarm
Date Posted: April 23, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Does anyone know if the 2008 Civic Si has the same wiring as a 2006-2007 Civic? I need to install a Python 871XP and the only wiring schematic I can find is for a 2006 Civic. I am not planning on hooking up the remote start at this point in time. Does this mean that I would not need the immobilizer bypass module until I am ready to hook up the remote start? Thanks.
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 23, 2008 at 8:03 PM
The information is the same. No need for the immobilizer bypass if no remote start is going to be installed.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: sicivic13
Date Posted: April 24, 2008 at 7:55 AM
Thanks Jeff. I really appreciate the info.
Posted By: sicivic13
Date Posted: April 28, 2008 at 2:22 PM
I finished installing a Python 871XP alarm in my 2008 Civic Si this past weekend. The only problem I have is with the range of the remote. It works great when I am away from the vehicle, but as soon as I get up close to the vehicle the remote ranges out about 75% of the time. I have the 2-way antenna mounted on the top of the windshield on the passenger side of the vehicle with the wire completely stretched out and run to the control module on the driver's side of the car. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this might be happening? I did replace the battery with several brand new ones and this did not solve the problem.
Posted By: ya boy mike
Date Posted: April 28, 2008 at 10:03 PM
I have seen this happen on every 871XP i have ever installed. I think every time I install one and demo it for the customer and show them how it works I have to mash on the unlock button multiple times for it to turn off the alarm. For some reason those remotes just suck right against the vehicle. Mike ------------- It Hz
Posted By: hurleyloser
Date Posted: April 29, 2008 at 3:20 AM
make sure your antenna is mounted horizontally and excess cable is not looped, it's 771xv viper cousin also has issues with the unit not responding to commands right away.
Posted By: sicivic13
Date Posted: April 29, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Thanks for the info guys. I appreciate the insight.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: April 29, 2008 at 8:28 PM
also check your ground to the unit. a bad ground also messes up the range.
Posted By: sicivic13
Date Posted: April 30, 2008 at 8:04 AM
tedmond you are the man. Sure enough it was not getting a good ground. Re-grounded it and it works great now. Thanks.
Posted By: sicivic13
Date Posted: April 30, 2008 at 8:10 AM
I have a 2008 Honda Civic Si with a Python 871 XP alarm that I installed. The question I have is do I need to install a hood pin? The wiring schematic I got from a 2006 Civic shows a hood pin wire (light blue) that comes off the fuse box but when you open the hood there is no light on the dashboard that comes on showing that the hood is open (similar to a door ajar warning light). I am trying to determine whether or not I need to go get a hood pin switch.
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: April 30, 2008 at 8:45 AM
If the alarm has a remote start you definitely need it. You don't want the car to start if you are changing a belt, your fingers may not like that.
Posted By: dtk1
Date Posted: April 30, 2008 at 9:27 AM
Try not to used a factory hood pin always use your own. if you have a RS you need it if is only alarm its not mandatory but I recommend you to use one
Posted By: sicivic13
Date Posted: April 30, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Sorry guys. I was not questioning whether or not I needed a hood pin. I just wanted to know if the Civic already had a factory hood pin and if so could I use it for the alarm.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: April 30, 2008 at 8:58 PM
it does have a hood pin (factory) as you mentioned, you didnt need the remote start so hooking up the hood pin would not really be needed. Its nice to have if you got the alarm because if someone tried to disconnect your battery, or cut your siren, the alarm would be set off. your welcome ! always glad to help.
Posted By: sicivic13
Date Posted: May 03, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Now i have another question. I am going to install the remote start. I am going to get a bypass module for the immobilizer. Where would the best place be to find the tachometer wire on the 2008 Honda Civic Si? Unfortunately the computer is located in the engine compartment and not inside the vehicle. Is there somewhere inside the vehicle that I could tap into?
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: May 03, 2008 at 9:01 PM
i would suggest you get the following bypass kits as i thought they were easy to use. Fortin HONDA-SL3
Bypasskits PKH34
iDataLink ADS-DLSL-HA i prefer using the Fortin or iDataLink Modules better than the Bypasskits. Tach - BLUE @ Ecm Module under hood near drivers strut tower OR YELLOW /GREEN, WHITE/ BLUE, BLUE/GREEN and BROWN @ the coil I have installed a unit into an 07 and the wires should be same.. Using the Alternator Stator Works 100% better and guarenteed 100% that it will start everytime. Sometime the tach does not give a strong enough signal that the unit can sense. if you go the alternator stator wire its at the alternator plug. there is a plug/loom with 6-8 wires. Cut open the loom (large that runs from top of engine down intot he alt) its easy to spot since its a new car and the wires are new.
Posted By: sicivic13
Date Posted: May 04, 2008 at 9:12 AM
Which one is the alternator stator wire? I see a green plug that goes to the alternator. It only has 4 wires coming out of it. RED / white, blue/white, GREEN / WHITE, & BLACK / YELLOW. Other than that there is one other connection that I can see that is covered in rubber. I would assume this is the ground but am unsure. Also do you know how to disable the clutch safety switch? There are 2 plugs, one that is yellow and one that is gray. I unplugged both of them but the car would not start even wiht the clutch pedal depressed. I plugged the top one back in but the car would only start with the clutch pedal depressed. Thanks.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: May 04, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Are you using a 689m as part of the install since you are installing an automatic remote start in a manual transmission vehicle?
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: May 04, 2008 at 12:55 PM
JWorm] wrote:
re you using a 689m as part of the install since you are installing an automatic remote start in a manual transmission vehicle?
My thoughts as well. I was going to try and predict the next question. "how do I bypass my clutch"? AND the factroy hood pins are AS good as any. Use it, it's there. -------------
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: May 05, 2008 at 2:51 PM
haha good one KTM ! yea i suggest you get a 689m befoe you get flammed. should have read the forum rules see, you do have the option of using the NEUTRAL SAFETY. This means the car already detects if its in gear. If the car is in gear, you will not be able to start it. Connecting the units Ebrake connection (-) to the Cars Neutral Safety LIGHT GREEN (-) @ gear selector switch will work as well.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: May 05, 2008 at 2:55 PM
but you can be extra safe and use the 689m
Posted By: sicivic13
Date Posted: May 05, 2008 at 4:19 PM
I understand the importance of using a 689m. My question is how does the 689m circumvent the clutch safety switch?
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: May 06, 2008 at 1:34 AM
A start signal is sent to a wire at the clutch switch..... either in conjunction with, or instead of, the ignition harness.
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