Starter and Fuel Cut Off Switches

Wanted to see what creative ideas people have used to put kill switches on a 2000 Honda Civic. Looking for unusual way to set one up. Like you have to have parking lights on to start car. Something to that effect. I have had two thefts out in front of my house within the past month and a half. I plan on getting lo jack, but by that time it may be to late. All Ideas are welcomed. THANKS!

Can easily do that. You could also make it so you had to honk the horn and/or turn anything else on or off for the vehicle to start. Did you have something specific in mind or is turning on the parking lights the way you want to do it? Just let us know. The possibilities are only limited by your imagination.

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If you want to do it with your parking lights or anything else that provides a 12V+ output, use it in place of the turn on lead shown below.

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I just wanted to see what kind of ideas people had and kinda brain storm them together to see what I would like to throw together. The parking lights thing is just an idea I saw on a website. I want to make it hidden and unique so that it wouldn't be the easiest thing to find. Someone once told me that you can set up an ignition kill where it will let them (theives) start the car but the car will die after like 15min or so. Is this something that is possible and Inexpensive to do. Thanks

could use cig lighter, spare fuse in fuse box, trigger in glove box....the poss. are endless

That sounds like a bad idea to let them start the car then have it shut off. Nothing can prevent your car from being stolen if a thief really wants it. The immobilizer in that car is better than any starter kill relay anyway.

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J Rilla

Owner/Installer

I agree with Jrilla, What cars were stolen outside your house?? My bet is they didnt have an OEM immobilizer system. 

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Hak

Siemens Autostart

One of the cars was a 99 Honda Civic SI and the other was a 91 Acura Integra. I don't know anything about alarms but I thought that was kinda strange too to have a system that would let them start the car in the first place. Its just something I heard. I know that my 00 Civic has a alarm that came in it from the factory but I had to take the fuse out because the damn thing would just go off on its own and would never shut up. It also wouldn't let you start the car. I took it back to honda and they said they couldn't find anything wrong with it. Low and behold it still had the same problem. I am not expecting to stop them from taking my car all together but to more or less slow them down a bit. I mean if I have to I will pull a plug wire off everytime I park the damn thing. Also I have heard that I can set up a kill switch so that it won't start unless the seatbelt is on. I guess I will just have to find the right wires to hook that up. Thanks for your help.

Detachable steering wheel...  Just kidding 

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Hak

Siemens Autostart

Honda Civic and Acura Integra are the number 1 vehicles to be stolen or broken into in Canada. If you like the passive starter disable so much. You can double your protection by investing alarm system with starter disable and ignition disable. Most alarm system out the today has two disable output.

If you think the alarm system is not safe enough than you can add a third protection. A passive starter disable with a single relay hook up.

You can wire a relay and use the rear defogger switch as a positive trigger to a relay.

RELAY Configuation: Pin 86 to the rear defogger switch, pin 85 to gound, pin 87a to starter wire key switch side, and pin 30 to starter wire motor side, and pin 87 do not use.

You will have to put the key in the Ignition switch and turn it on the Ignition than Press the Rear Defogger switch to start the vehicle. Once the vehicle is started than you can press the Rear Defogger switch to off or leave it on in the Winter. The Starter wire only require power to start the vehicle. After the vehicle is started and it doesn't have power.

Good luck

I like that last one. Pretty sweet!

I have actually seen this one work on theives.

If it's an automatic open up the housing around the gear selector and disconnect the start in "PARK" safety swtich. There should be one there and one in the "NEUTRAL" position. This way the vehicle can only be started when you move the gear selector to "NEUTRAL".

Spend all day under the dash looking for an alarm or starter kill relay that doesn't exsist.

ok I just noticed that your civic does not have an immobilizer. You should definately get an alarm installed.

If you use a passive starter kill relay, you should make sure that it is well disguised, or hidden, and it should be done as close to the firewall as you can get it. That way it will be more effective when the thief tries to hot wire the car because he will be trying to hot wire it before the relay. If you put the relay right in the middle of the wire then the thief could easily just cut the wire on the engine side and be gone.

You need to get a nice alarm with a back up siren, and some internal sirens to blow off the ears of the thief. Put one under the dash that they cant easily disable, so they wont even try to hot wire it.

You may want to think about installing a shock sensor though before doing so since those can cause false alarms in the middle of the night and cause a never cry wolf syndrome for you and the neighbors.

You should get a 2 way unit so that when your alarm goes off you are notified inside your house.



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J Rilla

Owner/Installer

hey, you might wanna check out this page, and checkout the word document. It's a pretty cool way to hookup a fuel kill. It's got a valet button and everything!The only thing I don't like about it is that your whole car is pretty much relying on one relay while you'redriving. If that relay fails, won't your car just shutoff? I guess you could always flick the valet switchto bypass it...but what about when you're driving andit fails.

Damn you guys are awesome. Throwing all kinda of ideas my way. What are some good brand to look for when buying a two way alarm. Thanks Again.

Autopage 750LCD has good range and nice features. you can buy it under the Marksman and comustar name if you want.

Now that I think about it, you dont necessarily need a 2 way alarm if you dont want. You could get a regular alarm and then buy a pager monitor like one of these: 

https://www.12voltshop.com/pager.asp

There are 2 different pager monitors there, and also a 2 way alarm starter system. I am not sure of the quality of any of these particular units, but I just wanted to show you your options.

I would recommend a complete 2 way alarm starter combo unit instead of getting a regular alarm and a pager. You dont need to use the starter features, but it will only add about 30 minutes to the install.

I am not familiar with a wide range of alarms since not many people need alarms where I am from, but I think for your purposes, you will not need many bells and wistles on the alarm since you will be using your own methods of making the alarm effective: like your starter kill relay and an extra siren and any other sensors you want can be added to any alarm.

Here is a great unit and it has a great price. I will tell you the install manual sucks, but with our help from this site, you will have no problem.

https://www.commandocaralarms.com/itemdetails.asp?Productid=496

Email me if you are interested in one of these FM-5005 units and I can hook you up with one as well as some of the accessories you will need.

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J Rilla

Owner/Installer

I was going to edit my last post but sometimes that feature doesnt work. I wanted to change those websites to links.

I was also going to tell you that you should do a search for "FM 2 way alarms" on Google if you want to see more options.



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J Rilla

Owner/Installer

Thanks I'll check it out and see what I can find. I'll have never installed an alarm before. I no very basic wiring and I am sure that I could figure it out with your guys help. I'll get back with you guys about what I find on alarms

hey, did you ever decide on a starter or fuel kill? I'm still researching. I like some of the ones that I find, but I don't want to have the car rely soley on 1 relay while I'm driving (that's more for the fuel kill ones). I'm trying to find one that works well with remote starter. Just curious what else you've found.

I'm interested in the fuel cut off too.

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