05 escape auto lock/unlock
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=105434
Printed Date: May 14, 2025 at 10:49 PM
Topic: 05 escape auto lock/unlock
Posted By: ejc1
Subject: 05 escape auto lock/unlock
Date Posted: June 12, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Can somone who has knowledge or done this tell me how and what I need to install auto door lock/unlock on my 2005 Ford Escape. It has factory keyless entry only no alarm. I am assuming I may need2 reelays? any diagram on how to wire these would be appreciated. I understand the pink white to be the lock and the violet/white to be the unlock. Thanks in advance.
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Posted By: mikvot
Date Posted: June 12, 2008 at 11:26 AM
What do you mean auto lock/unlock? Are you putting an aftermarket system on there? If so, tell us the model of the system.
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Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 12, 2008 at 12:07 PM
No, no aftermarket system. For instance, my wifes Expedition automatically locks the doors at say 10 MPH and unlocks in park. The Escape does not do this but I understand that by using a relay or 2, you can add this auto lock unlock feature. They both have the FordKeyless entry. Thanks
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: June 12, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Check out this diagram here.
Note that this will lock and unlock when the ignition is turned on or off respectively.
Doing auto lock with speed is impossible without a fairly complicated, custom solid state circuit; however if you knew which wires(assuming they exist) showed that the transmission was in park you could design a relay setup to lock when shifted out of park and unlock when shifted back into it. Chiltons, Haynes, AlldataDIY might have such info.
------------- C Renner's Auto Electronix
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Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 12, 2008 at 1:43 PM
Thanks, I just used the speed thing as an example, the in and out of park will work. Will look at thanks!
Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 12, 2008 at 1:52 PM
OK I need to ask a real dumb question here: These ARE new relays I add correct, they are not existing ones? Thanks
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: June 12, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Correct...you'll need new relays. Also, read here; the pink/white does both lock and unlock. Unlock is straight ground, lock is ground through 1000 ohms. ------------- C Renner's Auto Electronix
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Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 12, 2008 at 2:28 PM
I found this on a se4arch here, it looks like what I need but I do not know what the line is at the bottom of the diagram where the 2 blue wires connect: https://bulldogsecurity.com/New%20Wires/New%20Wires/Wires/images/fordmazdalocks.htm
Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 13, 2008 at 12:26 PM
anyone have anymore thoughts?
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: June 13, 2008 at 5:53 PM
I think you should ignore that diagram and focus on the ones I linked to above (about creating auto lock/unlock).
You would have to wire a 1000 ohm resistor inline on the wire marked "(-) output to lock circuit"; also you'll need to possibly change some of the wiring to 85 and 86 to various relays once you find out the polarity of the "park position" wire.
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Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 13, 2008 at 6:15 PM
chriswallace187 wrote:
I think you should ignore that diagram and focus on the ones I linked to above (about creating auto lock/unlock).
You would have to wire a 1000 ohm resistor inline on the wire marked "(-) output to lock circuit"; also you'll need to possibly change some of the wiring to 85 and 86 to various relays once you find out the polarity of the "park position" wire.
Thanks, but now I am confused: is your above comment about your reference or the other diagram?
Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 13, 2008 at 6:20 PM
also is that a 1 amp diode?
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: June 14, 2008 at 1:47 AM
chriswallace187 wrote:
Check out this diagram here.
Note that this will lock and unlock when the ignition is turned on or off respectively.
Doing auto lock with speed is impossible without a fairly complicated, custom solid state circuit; however if you knew which wires(assuming they exist) showed that the transmission was in park you could design a relay setup to lock when shifted out of park and unlock when shifted back into it. Chiltons, Haynes, AlldataDIY might have such info.
I meant that you should be guided by the diagrams I linked to in this post, which are on the12volt.com. The one from bulldog is confusing if you're trying to trigger lock/unlock with something other than an aftermarket alarm or keyless entry system; it also gets the resistor values wrong.
As to your other question, 1 amp diodes should be fine for all uses in this case. ------------- C Renner's Auto Electronix
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Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 14, 2008 at 7:39 AM
OK ...I am off to buy 2 moy relays, 2 1 amp diodes, 2 (1k) ul capacitors and 2 (10K) fixed resistors. Thanks for your help, I will report back!
Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM
The capacitor I bought has the leads coming off of each end: top and bottom. On the side of the capacitor are arrows, does this mean that the capacitor has a "direction" to be installed?
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: June 17, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Absolutely, the side in which the arrow points must be more negative than the side away from the arrow.
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Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 17, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Thanks, so arrows point towards the ground point in this diagram.
Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 22, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Is there a way, can you tell me top troubleshoot what I have built? I did everything except for the far left realy and it does not work. Can you advise?
Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Also I note that the diagram you reference to indicates a "purple" wire that says ignition. I am assuming that we need to connest to the light green and purple wire in the harness since on the wiring sheet that is called ignition?
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: June 22, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Assuming that you're doing lock and unlock with ignition on/off respectively (and not when it's shifted out of/into Park), you'll be connecting to the lt. GREEN/ purple in the car's ignition harness. As always, check it with a DMM to make sure that you've got the correct wire. That ignition would get connected to the pink wires in the12volt's diagram where it's labeled "ignition 12v+". Also if you didn't connect anything to 86 on the middle relay of the "auto lock" diagram, it's obviously not going to do anything. ------------- C Renner's Auto Electronix
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Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 22, 2008 at 7:12 PM
No there is nothing in 86, what should it be?
Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM
also can all of the commons be grounded together?
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: June 22, 2008 at 7:34 PM
86 on that middle relay has to be 12 volts constant for it to operate.
All the grounds can go to the same point.
You really should read the link under "Mobile Electronics Basics" marked "Relays", assuming you haven't yet.
------------- C Renner's Auto Electronix
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Posted By: ejc1
Date Posted: June 22, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Thanks for all of your help, we got it. The only strange thing was that we initially used the pink/white wire, but that always unlocked the doors when the key was turned on. We switched to the violet/white wire, and it worked fine. We also got lucky because apparently the dealer had either begun installing or installed and removed a ford alarm system and all of the connectors were there. Thanks!
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