08 tacoma 2ign 2 start how w viper 5701

I have an 08 Tacoma and Have never done a vehicle with two starters and two ignitions together. From what I understand with the Viper 5701 alarm I need to program the pink/blk ( flex relay ) wire to be used as a second starter. I think that is a new feature. The rest of all the Alarm wires are standard DEI colors. I think the idea behind this is to no have to use a second relay, and use the internal one. I could be wrong. ???   I guess what I am looking for is a wire to wire connection. I will post the color code for my truck below. Any help would be appreciated.



Battery       WHITE/ BLUE      (+)     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
Ignition 1    BLACK/ RED       (+)     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
Ignition 2    BLUE / YELLOW     (+)     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
Accessory 1   WHITE/ GREEN     (+)     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
Starter 1     GREEN/ BLACK     (+)     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
Starter 2     BLACK/ WHITE     (+)     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

If you want, use the flex for the second starter and use small purple on the 5-pin relay harness to drive a relay for your second starter. Put a diode in line between the small purple and the relay coil to prevent feedback.

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Big Dog wrote:

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If you want, use the flex for the second starter and use small purple on the 5-pin relay harness to drive a relay for your second starter. Put a diode in line between the small purple and the relay coil to prevent feedback.

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So I am assuming you mean use the pink/blk wire for the second starter and use the Small purple on the 5-pin harness to activate a relay for th second ignition. I think that is what you were heading at. Hear is a quick drawing of what I think I need. any info is welcomed

Sorry Didnt work the first time.

Ahhh, set up the flex relay for second start. That way you can use 87a as the key side for starter kill purposes, and the 87 as vehicle side. Or, pink/black- key, pink/white-car. Same way as the purple and green for usual starter kill.

That takes care of your starters.

Then, take another relay, 30 and 86 to +12V, 87 to the second ignition, and 85 to the -ve ignition out (small pink, green plug if I remember).

That takes care of your second ignition.

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gus1] wrote:

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Ahhh, set up the flex relay for second start. That way you can use 87a as the key side for starter kill purposes, and the 87 as vehicle side. Or, pink/black- key, pink/white-car. Same way as the purple and green for usual starter kill.

That takes care of your starters.

Then, take another relay, 30 and 86 to +12V, 87 to the second ignition, and 85 to the -ve ignition out (small pink, green plug if I remember).

That takes care of your second ignition.

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Just to make sure I know what you are talking about. and why this is done. The pink/black key and the pink/white car. will this disconect the two when the car is started that way there is no grinding when the truck is running under remote start???

The ignition triger would be the small pink wire that will output a negative signal to the 85 pin? Correct ???

I hope I understood that correctly.
Thanks

Yes, just like the purple and green. When the system is armed or under remote start, they will open the starter wires for starter kill/anti grind purposes. Because you have two starter wires, this will give you two start wires with starter kill.

And yes, the small pink is used to trigger a relay to give you higher current second ignition.

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[QUOTE=Big Dog]use the flex for the second starter and use small purple on the 5-pin relay harness to drive a relay for your second starter. QUOTE]

DOH kinda redundant huh?

I meant flex for 2nd IGN and small purple for 2nd START. Sorry about the confusion.

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thanks I will try this out this weekend. any info on the door locks should I isolate each one or just 5 wire? ( i dont know where to hit it for the 5 wire though)

craniumvibratio, using 87a for the second start like you have highlighted won't work. The reason DEI gives you that pink/black wire is to simplify the install on a car where the ignition wire must be isolated from the switch during remote start.

Big Dog and gus1 are right on with the stuff they've posted.

Your connection for the locks will depend on how you want them to operate.
The green (-) lock output will go to the lock wire from the driver's key cylinder. The blue (-) unlock output will go to the unlock wire from the key cylinder.
If you don't care about driver's priority unlocking, at that point you could program the alarm for double pulse unlock and be done with it.

If you want priority unlocking, you'd also use the blue (-) 2nd unlock output from the H2 harness on the 8701. I would suggest connecting this to the unlock wire from the lock switch on the inside.

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So when testing the unlock wire there should be a double + pulse? Everything sounds great I will install my system saturday. thanks for the clarification on the 87 pink/blk wire.

You won't see a double pulse on the wire during testing. The wires you'll be looking for would go to ground when the key is turned to lock or unlock in the driver's door key cylinder.

Notice when you turn the key to unlock it unlocks the driver's door - if you release it and turn it again within a few seconds it will unlock all doors. The double pulse programming option on the Viper simulates this.

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Sounds good I will give that a try. But does anybody know how to test the key sense wire? The wire in my truck is GREEN/ blk as well as my starter. I know from past experience that most of these wires are very small 22gauge or something. There is another GREEN/ blk coming out of the steering column 2nd harness Hear is a picture of it. I think this is it but I have no idea how to test it.

Ok I figured the key sense out...   Ok hear is my new problem. I have installed my system and it remotely starts fine but when it’s remotely started The AC does not work. Also when remotely started the tire inflation, rear wheel diff light and the ABS light all come on. I metered the ignition harness wires again just to double check the system the and the second ignition is not energized when it is remotely started. But is energized when started normally.   Also when the system is remotely started, when I put the key in the ignition and turn it to start it shuts the car down. When I turn it to IGN/ON it operates normally, Minus the AC and the other light.   Any info would be great.

I sent you a detailed pm about correcting the 2nd starter issue.

As to the whole start thing, that is the anti-grind preventing you form cranking the car while its running and blowing things up. To take over control after remote starting, put the key in and turn it the on position (not start) and press the brake and it should kick over.