Printer Friendly Forum Posts - viper 5701 issues, remote start and 530t

Hi Guys!

Had a Viper 5701 installed in my car but I am having issues with the remote start. The car primes but doesnt crank now ive had a look at the wiring and there are 2 wires that arnt connected that i believe to be the cause, one is labeled H3/2 RED / White - (+) 30a fused ignition 2/ flex relay, pin 87, input (this has a 30amp inline blade fuse, and H3/9 RED / Black - 30a fused accessory/starter relay input. Where would i hook these up too? on the back of the key barrel theres a thick red constant power wire that h3/6 Red is attached too is this the correct one? The Loom is H3.

also i have the 530T window lift module, I arm the alarm however the alarm goes off before the windows reach the top and switch off, im not quite sure how to fix this. I see comfort closure listed in the manual as a feature but im guessing is only programable by a bitwriter. Seems the 530T has not been hooked up into one of the 4 auxillary channels but into the lock pulse in on the H2/4 Orange Ground When Armed. h2/3 RED / White Auxillary Input and H2/5 Gray (-) output during activation states "Connect this wire top optional replay to bypass sensors that may trigger the security system during operation, This wire continues to output (-) ground for 5 seconds after the window motors have stopped.

Anyway, any help anyone could give me would greatly be appreciated! My cars been in pieces for 4 days now and im kind of wanting to get it back together! :)

Sorry didnt make that very clear h2/5 Gray - (-) output during activation and H2/3 Auxiliary Input are both not connected. Also as i need to send timed pulses to the 530T does anyone know if aux 1/2/3 come in Validity mode? and if theres any way of changing this without a bit writer.? Thankss!!!

Make/Model/Year car?

The RED / Black needs to be connected to B+ that can feed enough current to the starter motor wire.

For the 530T, you can turn on the comfort closure using the valet switch. This will delay arming by 20 seconds.

Your second option: connect the H2/5 gray output to the H1/7 dark blue trunk pin input of the 5701 - this should shunt the impact sensor until the window is closed. Out of curiosity, what zone is showing up as triggered when you arm?

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:) 94 Nissan Skyline ECR33. (im from Australia) its a Japanese import. On the H3 loom you mentioned the RED / Black but do you know where the H3/2 RED / White - (+) 30a fused ignition 2/ flex relay, pin 87, input goes?

The trunk imput isnt being used as i have an interior light in the trunk and i havnt tested it yet but im pretty sure it will go off if opened. Is it possible to have both the trunk switch and the 530T connected to the same input?

I havnt actually checked that (its 2am here) and it was getting quite late when i gave up and decided to do a little surfing :).

Yah just finished installing this autostart feature yesterday on my EVO. I was having the same problem as you.. The RS will start but it wont crank the motor. The problem was the RED / black wire needed a constant 12v to power the starter.

Also .. another issue I had was I forgot to bypass the clutch switch.. Dunno if you have this on your car but on my car the clutch has to be depressed in order for the vehicle to start. So if you have this feature on your skyline you will need to bypass this as well.

No clutch bypass :) !!

Guys still unsure about this 3/2 RED / White - (+) 30a fused ignition 2/ flex relay, pin 87? anyone know where to connect it too? Or if its even needed?

I didnt need that wire ... I think that is for vehicles with 2 ignition wires.

There is an on-board relay called the flex relay which can be either start or accessory or ignition. The H3/2 wire is the input feed to the flex relay. If you're using that relay then the H3/2 needs to be connected to a B+ 30 amps max. If the flex relay output isn't used then don't connect the H3/2.

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The way you will know if you use this relay is if the pink/wht wire is connected anywhere.

This pnk/wht wire is for cars with a second ignition, second accesory, or second starter. By defualt from the factory it is set as a second ignition wire.. To change its function see pg.65 menu 3 feature 8.

So if you have a second ignition wire or any of the above mentioned. Yes connect this RED / wht wire and program your flex relay to the necessary function.

Ok, sorted out all the other issues however now when i enable the remote start. close the door and arm the system the thing doesnt turn off!!! it keeps running! now if i hti the brake or let off the handbrake it straight away shuts down!

That's normal. just hit the start button and it'll shut down.

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Previously it was shutting down through on me hitting the arm button. Also when i hit lock the parkers go on and wont turn off! Thanks heaps though ill try hitting the remote start button on the remote tonight (im pretty sure i didnt try that).

you probably entered timer mode.. When you hit the rs button are you hitting the function button.. This makes it go to timer.. You should just be hitting the re button open the door then arm.. Check your timer status and how its programmed

i put my foot on the brake, pull up handbrake, take foot off brake, hit the remote start button on the remote, open the door close the door and hit arm. the manual says it car should shut off. From what i can see about the turbo timer mode you need to hit the function key twice then press the RS button to enable it. the other weird thing is the parkers stay lit up but only when armed after following remote start sequence :) thanks for the advice by the way.

Was your rs ever working properly before and the system just started acting like this?

no, however initially when hittting the arm button it was shutting down the engine. im just about to go test pressing that rs button now.. but im sure now thinking about it i tried that.

Possibly a problem with the door trigger wire?
Try this....
Without car running, open the drivers door. Press arm on the remote. Does the siren chirp one time, pause, then chirp another time? It should. It means a door is open.
If it doesn't chirp the second time, the alarm is not seeing a door open. Check your door trigger input.

Its deffinatley something with the door trigger wire.. I was able to replicate your problem .. I stumbled onto this problem by accident, Yesterday me and my wife were in the driveway and I was attempting to enter the rs sequence. Thing is she opened the door before I could hit the rs button. I hit the RS button while her door was open, I still recieved a confirmation chirp saying it was entering. When I went to arm, the car wouldn't shut down.. I then shut the car down via brake light. I then started up the car to attempt to re-enter the rs, did everything correct and attempted to rs and everything went smoothly. My guess is there is something wrong with your door trigger wire. It is probably not connected to the correct wire. Recheck that wiring.

hmm.. Just learnt something, sequence will allow RS as long as u put foot on brake, lift park brake, take foot off brake, press RS button but unless the door is closed and u then open the door, close the door and hit arm the car will not shut off unless u press the RS button on the remote!..

issue solved. i was testing it with the door open. :S.. just didnt realise this was causing me all my problems, anyway thanks alot for your help guys. Only took me 9 days to sort out all the issues! :).. mind u i rewired the entire stereo, amps etc etc. Anyway now that i have finished installing it im really quite happy with how it performs.

iz_indifferent wrote:

hmm.. Just learnt something, sequence will allow RS as long as u put foot on brake, lift park brake, take foot off brake, press RS button

Steps 2, 3 and 4 in the owner's guide on page 29.

2. Press on the vehicle’s foot brake.
3. Apply the emergency brake.
4. Release the vehicle’s foot brake.
Note: Pressing the brake again after this step will disable the
remote start feature.

iz_indifferent wrote:

but unless the door is closed and u then open the door, close the door and hit arm the car will not shut off unless u press the RS button on the remote!..
issue solved. i was testing it with the door open. :S.. just didnt realise this was causing me all my problems,

Note on page 32 in the owner's guide after the explanation of "Valet Take-Over".

Note: To enable Valet take-over with a manual transmission, open the door when going into a manual transmission mode. After you exit the vehicle you can arm the alarm and the car will remain running.

RTFM

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