06 trailblazer issues

So i have an 06 trailblazer. the starter wire is not necissary. the car starts off of a pulse on the acc2 wire. i am putting in a valet 572t(i think). just a basic plane jane DEI remote start. XK01 for the bypass. Have everything hooked up, and the car starts about half of the time. Ran the acc2 off of the acc2 orange wire on the external satellite relay. relay works fine. clicks on and off just like it is supposed to. The car will crank about half of the time. every time it cranks it starts. the other half of the time, the ignition comes on, acc2 drops then comes back on, but the car does not crank. any ideas??? thnx in advance guys.

Ok, something you are telling us is not correct.because an 06 Trailblazer requires a starter wire(yellow) connection along with 2 ignitions(pink and white) and has since it's creation.....

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services

Mike,

The '06-up Trailblazer actually will start without the yellow starter wire being energized. I've always hooked it up anyway, but brent is right that it'll crank just by having both accessories drop out.

Brent,

I would test (with a meter or light, not visually), that BOTH the orange and brown accessory wires are turning on when the remote start turns on, and then turning off during crank.

I'm not sure sure that you have to hook up the yellow starter wire or not, but it's there, it's easy, and it sure doesn't hurt anything. If you don't come up with any other ideas, I'd hook it up to be safe.

P.S. The remote starter will also work even if the brown wire isn't powered up as an accessory. Well, it'll work most of the time, but then the car will come back before too long.

Huh, i stand corrected! :)

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services

Yeah Mike, those are weird.

If you don't power up the brown wire, what'll happen is as soon as you hit the remote start, as soon as it powers on the ignition (but the brown isn't powered), is it'll crank and start immediately, with no delay at all, even before the remote starter has a chance to trigger the yellow wire.

This appears to work fine in front of the installer, but then after a while the car comes back, with the customer saying the remote start doesn't work all the time.

This is ONLY a guess, but I'm wondering if maybe after sitting for a while, and then when the remote start turns on, the car doesn't have any time for the fuel pump to build fuel pressure.

Again, just a guess, but it seems that if the brown wire is connected, the car doesn't come back anymore.

ok well i will test both of the acc wires. the brown one is easy because it is ran through a relay that i built, so its just click click. I will see exactly what the orange acc is doing, then let you guys know. thanks for the input, it is greatly appreciated.

well i ran both accs' off of relays so i could see and hear what they are doing. they both drop out like they are supposed to, but the car still only starts half of the time. really struggling on this one. i just dont understand why they would click off and not engage the starter. well i just talked to another dei tech and he told me to try another tach source. i would think that the vehicle would crank and not start if it is a bad tach signal, but maybe i am wrong.

Does the car have the Yellow starter wire??   You should power it.  I bet your problem will go away.

well it does have the starter wire. it is hooked up. i am going to put 12 volts to it and see what it does.

well the one that i did before this one i did power up the brown because as soon as you turn the ignition on, the car would start. just not the way it is supposed to work. but i am not a doctor.

Ya know Brent the DEI tech may be right.I have a 3.8L Caravan myself that i put a DEI RS in and used the injectore wire. It would start maost always but when i came out in the morning it wouldn't go. A little later it was fine. I moved it to the coil ans have never had a problem. I would at least try another source.

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services

i have done dozens and dozens (and dozens) of C/K trucks and Trailblazer/Envoys and have never hooked up the brown Acc wire and have never had one come back with any issues.....

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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979

Well that is the last thing i should have tried. didnt think about it until after the car was already gone, but that could have solved it. dont know if that would have been the right thing to do, since you are supposed to hook up the brown acc 2 wire. but if it would have worked, i would have done it.