12 volt wire loses voltage
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=107265
Printed Date: July 14, 2025 at 6:40 AM
Topic: 12 volt wire loses voltage
Posted By: charger1970
Subject: 12 volt wire loses voltage
Date Posted: September 06, 2008 at 8:39 PM
I am installing an anti theft device in a 2008 charger. Everything is fine except one thing. The wire I am using as my trigger voltage shows 12 volts all of the time when the key is on. The problem is when I touch the input wire from my product to the 12 volt output, the voltage drops down to 0 volts. When I remove the wire it pops back up to 12 volts. Several 12 volt wires on this car do the same thing. Is there anything I can put in between the 2 wires to prevent this voltage from dropping out? Thanks in advance !
Replies:
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 07, 2008 at 4:24 AM
Suggest using fusebox output.
Posted By: charger1970
Date Posted: September 07, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Thanks for the reply. The problem is I need a 12V signal when the key is on and in run and 0V when the key is off. I tried the Ign 1 circuit and it messes up the computer even with a diode. I have found three others that do the trick but they lose voltage as soon as you touch my products input wire to it. Then when I remove my input wire it reads 12V again. Thanks in advance for your help.
Posted By: enice
Date Posted: September 07, 2008 at 4:29 PM
there may be something wrong with the actual product.
Posted By: megaman
Date Posted: September 07, 2008 at 4:36 PM
sounds like your 12v input to your product is ground. Whenever you touch it to 12v, it goes to ground. Either it's the wrong wire, or there's something wrong with your product.
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: September 07, 2008 at 4:41 PM
You need to use a transistor. I will have some time tonight to draw you a diagram. There is not enough current capacity on that wire that you are using. You will have to use it to turn on the transistor. You can get about 2 amps of current using the transistor only, if you need more current you will have to use the transistor to power a relay.
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: September 07, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 07, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Thanks enice I was thinking that way, are you trying to connect an ign sense or the ign in break. If it's the former you definately have a short to ground sence the ign. sese wire on an immobiliser at most has to trip a relay or (2 x relay) coil. Craig, nice to see you floating back! sorryh every pun intended. 0
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: September 07, 2008 at 6:05 PM
Floating for now. This was by far the worse one I have been through.
Posted By: charger1970
Date Posted: September 07, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Thank you guys ! I am using the wire to sense when the ignition key is on. And as I stated when I touch my input Sense wire to the 12V output wire I chose, the voltage drops to 0V. I will try the transistor. I will have to use a relay with it however because I think the circuit will draw between 3-15 amps. Thanks again ! Mike
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 08, 2008 at 1:32 AM
I'm getting worried about this, the ign sense should draw next to nothing, place the unit across a 12v battery and connect the grounds. Then connect this wire to the pos. You should see nothing at the terminal. If you get lots of sparks its faulty, don't use it.
Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: September 08, 2008 at 8:46 AM
What the heck are you connecting that is going to draw 3-15A????
------------- Kevin Pierson
Posted By: joch1314
Date Posted: September 08, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Have you connected your grounds BEFORE you hook up the 12volt positive. I had a 07 Jeep Patriot (Jeep/Dodge....same thing) that I worked on last thur, and when I hooked the 12 volt positive wire to the ignition wire it was doing some weird things. Figured it was something with the ground and hooked that up first....then reconnected my ignition wire and sure enough.....no weird stuff! Make sure your grounds are hooked up first!!!! ------------- ...half of the truth can be worse than a lie. <----Roger Russell said that..
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 08, 2008 at 5:05 PM
First I've never installed an imobiliser that needed more than 5amps to run it, second the only cables that will have to carry current are the 2(?) breaks- ign (or fuel pump etc) and starter the ign sence should draw a max of about 200milliamps to run the relay coils.
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