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Vehicle: 2003 Chevrolet Silverado 4x4 ls Ext cab.

Okay ive spent all day looking for post for my vehicle, ive seen half related topics and wiring. This is my frist time with security wiring, and Im needing help installing the icbm-7071 performance teknique remote starter, keyless entry, and alarm. i apologize for all my quesions but i cant find the answers! i basically need directions for this whole install :(

First, the xk01 module i found out is the only one nowadays to buy to bypass everything, and i dont understand where to connect the brown - ground while running wire to. It says somewhere to the RCS, but what wire comes from my ibcm-7071 to it? or can i just use the lt green wire by my key as the ground?

2nd, my door lock/unlocks. to my understanding i have the xk01 to bypass it. but i still dont know exactly what wires are needed, theres the tan and grey wire in my door i know i need to cut, 4 wires are going to each of these, and the other one says a 12v source constant, does that mean any or what? maybe im totally wrong?

3rd. theres a 6 pin connector on my RS with wires needing to go 1.orange (-) 500mA ground-when-armed . 2. blue (-) 200mA passenger unlock (is this a relay? or just to the p/s door module?), 3. whtie/black (-) 200mA programmable auxiliary output. 5. blk/white (-) 200mA dome supervision. (says it has to be relay, true or not?)

And i just need a wire color/location for each if possible. i dont think many people installed these so i think im SOL, but any help would be appreciated. i would have it done professionally but they all turned me down because its not their product so its all up to me. if anyone has an explanation on what needs relayed and a good wiring diagram i might be good to go. thanks, corbin

Is there an install guide for that Performance Teknique remote starter online? If there is, and we could look at it, that would help a lot.

As far as tan and grey wires inside the door, the whole reason you bought the XK01 was so that you wouldn't have to spend all your time and energy fishing wires inside the doors. So you don't need to worry about that.

I have no idea what kinds of outputs and/or wire colors your remote starter has, but:

1. The brown wire from the XK01 needs to receive a ground, anytime the remote starter is on. Find an output from the remote starter that makes a ground ALL the time the remote starter is turned on, and connect here.

The purpose of the brown wire is to turn on the XK01, so it'll turn off your truck's Passlock II anti-theft system, allowing the engine to start.

2. The XK01 has green and blue wires, for lock and unlock.

Connect the lock output from your remote starter, to the green lock input on the XK01. This will lock the doors.

Connect your remote starter's unlock output, AND the blue 200ma passenger unlock output you mentioned, to the XK01's blue unlock input.

The first time the XK01 receives a ground on the blue wire, it'll unlock the driver's door only. The second time it gets a ground, it'll unlock all the other doors.

3. About your other outputs you mentioned there. Don't worry about connecting those, especially if you're new at this.

For a better description:

ground-when-armed output: This makes a ground whenever the Performance Teknique unit is armed, so you can hook up a starter kill relay. But your truck's Passlock II system already makes it hard to steal.

Dome supervision output: This is to turn on the domelight when you unlock the doors. The XK01 already does this for you.

Programmable auxiliary output: I'm guessing this is a trunk release output. It could pop open the trunk on a sedan, but you don't have to worry about that on your pickup. You could use it for all kinds of cool stuff in the future, but it's not necessary for now.

fazda, as far as your other post and this one here's a couple thoughts to ponder.

1. It is obviously a PITA to go into the doors for lock/unlock/disarm wiring. This is why the XK01 was created - it only requires the one wire at the data plug to get the vehicle to do all of that. Hence, you don't need to worry about those wires on the truck.

2. Ditto with Chris Luongo on that 6-pin plug. The only thing maybe useful is the programmable auxiliary out if you can tell us more about what the manual says.

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wow guys thanks alot, that makes it 10x easier, now i just need to find another 4 day weekened to do this with lol, i got so fustrated the first time i ripped it all out in like 15 min.. made me cry lol. anyway, the xk01 just makes the whole system work much easier, and i thought the 6 pin was for a bunch of features. but thanks alot you two. helped tons. ill post when i get into it again, thanks.

sorry for a 2nd post, but i was wondering if i even hooked up my neutral saftey wire. on my trucks its supposedly the yellow wire coming from the switch itself, it runs to the my fuse box under the hood. so i had absolutely no room to wire it at the switch, so i chased it through the electrical tubing, and it comes up over the top of the motor to the driver side (under the top plastic cover) and i spliced a tap into the only yellow wire there.. there are 2 other yellow/blk wires but only one yellow.. am i on the correct wire?

and the tach, i put it on one of the coils, not blk brwn or pnk, to any other wire on any other coil though? thanks.

The neutral safety wire can go directly through the toggle switch to ground.

Absolutely do not hook the wire to the yellow at the switch; that's the starter wire. Connecting the n/s wire to it will cause your remote start to work fine up to the instant it starts to crank, and then shut down.

I have no idea why any manufacturer's wiring database ever lists the (+) starter wire as "neutral safety". Technically I suppose they are correct because the yellow wire will never send current to the starter unless the vehicle is in park or neutral; but it's completely irrelevant to any "neutral safety" wire on the remote start.

The whole purpose of the neutral safety wire has to do with certain older vehicles which had no electrical interruption of the starter wire when the vehicle wasn't in park or neutral; I've described this in other posts.

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thanks chris, i tried lookin for your other posts but it gives me 6 pages to look through haha, im sorry i dont quite understand.. you said through the toggle switch to ground, but what toggle? are you saying add a toggle switch from my rs and run it to any grounding source?

and now into the alarm 8pin on the RS, GREEN/ blk wire from my 7071 says to disarm output, wiring diagrams tell me the lt green wire in my drivers door module.. and then it has a bunch of sensors i believe to hook up to. is it needed? i guess only if i want it to trigger with it.. but the oiul sensor wire? and brake input is easy.. white wire on the pedal.. and ignition input of the key cylinder, is the the key sense lt green wire?

sorry for so many questions but thanks alot in advance, Corbin

Tach: Don't waste all that time running the wire under the hood. Four screws and the instrument cluster comes out, with plenty of slack on the wire. Tach is the only white wire in the harness.

Brake: Getting to the brake pedal is a pain. Inside the driver's fuse box, put your hand in there and reach upward. Find the harness going up, wrapped in foam tape. Brake is light blue in there.

Neutral safety: The spot in the steering column where you connected to the yellow wire, you're already on the "safe" side of the neutral safety switch.

Like Chris said, just connect your remote starter's neutral safety wire to one side of your control toggle switch, and connect the otehr side of the toggle switch to straight ground.

If you'd like to reassure yourself, after the installation is done, try to remote start the truck while it's in drive or reverse. You'll see that it won't crank.

Factory alarm disarm: Are you using the XK01? You'll be connecting the XK01's brown wire, to a ground-when-running from the remote starter. That'll automatically disarm the truck's alarm (through the data wire), so there's no need to hook up to that green wire inside the door.

im sorry but its still confusing, your saying control toggle switch.. um, so i need to buy any type of toggle switch and ground one end, then connect the other end to my n/s wire.. and turn the switch on at all times? and that will be ok? im not understanding why the toggle needs to be there. judging from that wouldnt that mean just ground it constantly? explain "control toggle switch" i guess.

i understand now about how the xk01 is doin all of it through the data wire but im not totally sure about what wire would be gwrunning from my performance teknique. only wire i found relevant is on the remote start 7pin (-) 200ma bypass output when remote start, which i think thats what it means, a ground when remote start is on so i think im good on that.. but some reasurance would be good to make sure thats not going to be a problem.

As far as the toggle switch, forget about it. I incorrectly assumed your r/s was supplied with one. It's only necessary if you'd like to be able to disable the remote start at times.

You're correct on the wire you're mentioning for a GWR.

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ok, ive hooked up 99% of the wires. the only one i couldnt find is the 8pin red wire (+) says "locate the wire which is usually connected to the oil sensor on the dashboard" is that wire needed?

anyway, i tried to test the system as it was.. and so i plugged in all the connectors.. and absolutely nothing works.

1.) after reading the manual it tells me how to RS the truck, so i do this.. it actually works and attempts to start, fires, then dies. And keeps trying to restart itself over and over as long as i have it armed. Now the book states if this happens to take my wire going to my tach and find a stronger signal, stating examples like oil sensor signal or alternator signal if tach wire isnt easy to locate. but i connected this to the white wire behind my cluster (the tach wire) any suggestions?

2.) door lock and unlock, absolutely nothing happens when i press the lock and unlock.. only changes the state of arming and disarming so i can RS the truck. Ive got my xk01 and my RS locks spliced into the lt blue wire at the lt blue plug @ bcm. and the unlocks of the 2 to the white wire at the bcm. (there are 2 white wires, i went to the one closest to the lt blue one)

3.) i have the xk01 all hooked up to my knowlege to be complete. the gwr wire must be correct in order for it to even bypass to start.. so that means thats correct.. my neutral safety wire is grounded with the truck.

So concluding, locks/unlocks arent doing crap to my truck, only beeping on my remote led screen, and my remote starter attempts to start, but just dies. please help!!

Further into my review of this i believe its not supposed to attempt to start with the door open.. well it was wide open and i attempted to start, and it still tried. This makes me believe my door triggers arent working correctly maybe?

When i try to lock or unlock my truck using the RS it beeps alot and freaks out on me telling me doors are open and such.

My parking lights as well do not come on for anything, and i believe are supposed to. i dont kno if its the door unlocking part as to why they arent but i have the white wire coming from my RS brain going to the gry/blk wire at the brown plug @ bcm, correct?

Now the door trigger/dome wires can be connected to my knowlege on other posts.. so i have these hooked up to the gry/blk wire on the lt blue plug at the bcm, to my knowlege is the door trigger? do i need to do the passenger trigger as well or what?

sorry for tons of questions, just lost in all the confusion

I don't know why your RS wouldn't work with a door open; I've never heard of that before. What exactly does the manual say that makes you think it shouldn't?

You also need to meter the wires before you connect to them. Just connecting them on a hunch to wires at the BCM is not smart - you're asking to fry its internal circuitry and get a replacement, and a meter can tell you before you've connected if you have the right wire.

Third - where are you getting your wiring info? Some of the wire locations on the vehicle that you've listed are wrong.

Fourth - if you look at the wiring sheet for the XK01, it shows that you don't connect any wires to the remote start AND the vehicle. They go directly between the remote start control module and the XK01 - nowhere else. The XK01 controls everything via the data lines on the truck.

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ok so i was confused about the locks/unlocks, just bein dumb and actually connecting all to the bcm :( , but the start still...

as soon as it cranks it dies.. is that the tach signal not good enough or what?

What exactly does the remote start's manual say about tach programming/connection?

Where do you have the tach connected?

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it says on my 7pin to connect a PURPLE / wht to the tach wire. and i have it connected to the white wire behind the cluster, which i believe is the tach wire.

is that what seems to be the problem though? or is it something else?

chriswallace187 wrote:

What exactly does the remote start's manual say about tach programming/connection?

what he said, the key part there was "programming". the unit needs to learn the tach signal

it actually says they are self setting, to verify press a valet key on the antenna, and ill do that this weekened when i hook it up again to troubleshoot it.

On a GM Truck- "starts and dies" can also be a Passlock II problem- that's how they act if the theft deterrent is not bypassed or not bypassed properly....you can decide this by noticing if the R/S brain still has ignition hot - meaning it is not what has shut it down.......

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Brcidd - Engineer That Does Remote Starter Installs on the side.

brcidd wrote:

On a GM Truck- "starts and dies" can also be a Passlock II problem- that's how they act if the theft deterrent is not bypassed or not bypassed properly....you can decide this by noticing if the R/S brain still has ignition hot - meaning it is not what has shut it down.......

ok i dont understand how to test the brain if thats the problem, but my truck attempts to start so is it safe to say my neutral safety is grounded right, giving the xk01 power.. so its not that? and my book said something about the tach wire bein low signal if this happens, but im connected to the white wire behind the cluster.. how can it not be? programming the tach is on its own.. im just stumped!

The lock/unlock still doesnt work either. so im guessing it might just not gettin bypassed correctly.. i have xk01 > Rs locks and unlocks connected.. what would cause it to still not work? maybe this could solve the whole starting issue as well.

i finally got a garage to work out of for a few days so post soon would help! thanks and sorry for a late come back on these.

fazda] wrote:

p>which i believe is the tach wire.

are you testing your wires?

testing it should result with 1v-6v on idle correct? i havent tested yet, just picked up a multimeter from a friend finally. i was going with what chris said earlier in my topic. im thinking about going to the ignition coils instead. going to take a while to get back in the garage.

I am also having the same problems with my remote start in my 2000 silverado.

I have the tach wire hooked up to the white wire off the ecm and when i go to start it, it starts and dies and continues to crank for a little while.

Can't figure out whats wrong.

Kazor, have you used a Passlock bypass module? And which white wire from the ECM?

I've never bothered with the ECM or cluster(though there is a regular analog tach wire available at the gauge cluster); I've always used an injector or coil for tach.

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thats what im thinking it has to be. I never even heard of the passlock untill i read this thread.

My truck had an old remote start from the previous owner but i did not get the key chain starter so im putting my own in, so tonight i will try and see if there is a bypass module or not.

Any ideas where this module might be?

If the previous installer used a bypass module, or relay and resistor(a less common way of bypassing Passlock), it would almost certainly be in close proximity to the remote starter. Just following the wiring harnesses would find it.

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ok so i just had a look at my truck.

i found the bypass module

i found that there were 4 wire coming of the module towards the r/s module ( i didnt bother folowing the other ones wherever they go)

i found blue, purple, red and black(assuming this is the ground) wires coming from the module. with no other in formation on this module i have no clue where any of these are suposed to go.